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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 4047277" data-attributes="member: 22622">But it might as well be ritual cutting and self mutalization. For a second, I thought yeah lets all switch to 4e.  But its not that easy. YOu're learning a completely new system. One that is very different than pervious ones.  Everyone isn't an rpg head like us who devours systems.  They know how to play one way and they like it and reading through another 300 pg book does not sound pleasing to them.  I get where this guy is coming form because i had a DM flat out tell me that he was not going to be able to help me out in my RPG tournament at gencon if we used 4e and he told me because he just doesn't have the time nor want right now to learn a new system. I completely got it. I was so caught up in the newness, and all the mechanical stuff that I forgot everyone isn't an enworlder and rpghead. Everyone doesnt want to learn a new system. YOu can't forcefeed it to people who are trying to enjoy a hobby.  To take your thing, its like going over to watch football every sunday and then all of a sudden everyone wants to watch tennis.  Then they tell you you're lame and want to force you to watch it with them.  YOu don't understand tennis nor have an inkling too. YOu are in 3 fantasy football leagues and just want to watch the game.  They all want to watch the game too but tennis is the latest craze everyone's into.</blockquote>