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Message: <blockquote data-quote="beepeearr" data-source="post: 2696064" data-attributes="member: 20548">A 10th level Mystic Theurge Cleric/Wizard Combo has a total number of spells per level per day of 10 0-level spells9 1st level spells7 2nd level spells5 3rd level spells3 4th level spellsand a caster level of 7 for both cleric and wizardcompared to the following for a straight wizard4 0-level spells4 1st level spells4 2nd level spells3 3rd level spells3 4th level spells2 5th level spellsor the following for a straight cleric6 0-level spells5 1st level spells5 2nd level spells4 3rd level spells4 4th level spells3 5th level spellsbut the kicker (for me anyway) is the difference between the Mystic Theurge and a straight cleric/wizard multiclass.  And yes I understand alot of people think multi-classed spell casters are underpowered, I'm just not one of them, I see the decision to multi-class as giving up power for versatility.9 0-level spells7 1st level spells 5 2nd level spells3 3rd level spells with a caster level of 5 for both wizard and cleric.  The more Mystic Theurge levels you have the difference between a straight wizard or cleric and the Mystic theurge shrinks while the difference of a the mystic theurge and the cleric/wizard becomes wider.  I don't think the mystic theurge is horribly broken, just broken.  Decrease the number of cast as "previous class" to around 8 levels of both wizard and cleric and at least the spells per day falls somewhere between the multi-class Wizard/Cleric and the Straight level Wizard or cleric. I will repeat, yes a straight wizard or cleric will have more powerful spells, but the Mystic Theurge will have slightly less powerful spells, but a lot more of them to use per day.  At 16th level the Mystic Theurge will have all the spell casting power of a both a 13th level Wizard (max spell level 7) and a 13 level cleric (max spell level 7th), whereas the the straight Cleric or Wizard has only a max spell level of 8th, and Wizard/Cleric 8/8 has only a max spell level of 4th for both wizard and cleric.At 16th level a Mystic Theurge will have almost double the number of spells per day for 0, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, 3 more 5th level spells, 2 more 6th level spells, an equal number of 7th level spells, and no 8th level spells, and a Spell caster level of 13th.  While a 16 level wizard only has two 8th level spells over and 3 caster levels, and 4 metamagic or Item creation feat over the Mystic Theurge.This is just my opinion, your opinion may vary.</blockquote>

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