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<blockquote data-quote="Lousifer" data-source="post: 2696283" data-attributes="member: 6812">Gee, I lost my &quot;beating the dead horse&quot; animated GIF in a computer reformat... Too bad.Just to toss my 2c in... I was another who thought the Mystic Theurge (MT) was overpowered.&nbsp; It's not.&nbsp; In fact, in a campaign that goes to epic levels, it's vastly underpowered.&nbsp; It's only &quot;powerful&quot; from level 15-21 or so, and the epic level progression nerfs it from then on out.If you want to discuss overpowered prestige classes, please look at the Red Wizard or the Archmage, both of which have more &quot;flavor,&quot; so they'd probably be rated as OK.&nbsp; Since when is adding flavor something that is &quot;too much work&quot; for a GM to do?&nbsp; I MUCH prefer prestige classes that don't come tied to some stupid cult/organization/whatever for my game world because I can add all that baggage myself, thank you very much.&nbsp; For the MT and Eldritch Knight (EK), I just added organizations that made sense.&nbsp; Multiclassing a spellcaster without such prestige classes is such a suboptimal option, it's not funny....&nbsp; And both of these classes &quot;patch&quot; this without adding lots of other funky abilities one needs to balance.&nbsp; As far as &quot;oh noes, he'll be able to cast bull's strength like 14 times per day!!!!,&quot; umm... an MT is either down caster levels from the multiclassing or they're down 2 feats from taking Practiced Spellcaster twice.&nbsp; If the buffs are REALLY that big an issue, I suggest you take a look at <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagic.htm" target="_blank">this spell</a> and read the section labeled with Area Dispel.&nbsp; It will be greatly enlightening, I assure you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lousifer, post: 2696283, member: 6812"] Gee, I lost my "beating the dead horse" animated GIF in a computer reformat... Too bad. Just to toss my 2c in... I was another who thought the Mystic Theurge (MT) was overpowered. It's not. In fact, in a campaign that goes to epic levels, it's vastly underpowered. It's only "powerful" from level 15-21 or so, and the epic level progression nerfs it from then on out. If you want to discuss overpowered prestige classes, please look at the Red Wizard or the Archmage, both of which have more "flavor," so they'd probably be rated as OK. Since when is adding flavor something that is "too much work" for a GM to do? I MUCH prefer prestige classes that don't come tied to some stupid cult/organization/whatever for my game world because I can add all that baggage myself, thank you very much. For the MT and Eldritch Knight (EK), I just added organizations that made sense. Multiclassing a spellcaster without such prestige classes is such a suboptimal option, it's not funny.... And both of these classes "patch" this without adding lots of other funky abilities one needs to balance. As far as "oh noes, he'll be able to cast bull's strength like 14 times per day!!!!," umm... an MT is either down caster levels from the multiclassing or they're down 2 feats from taking Practiced Spellcaster twice. If the buffs are REALLY that big an issue, I suggest you take a look at [URL=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagic.htm]this spell[/URL] and read the section labeled with [I]Area Dispel[/I]. It will be greatly enlightening, I assure you. [/QUOTE]

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