Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Samhaine" data-source="post: 2697811" data-attributes="member: 4873">Oh.. wow.. this thread is still going.After reading through the thread, my belief that the class is overpowered has dwindled significantly.&nbsp; Conversely, my belief that it is mediocre in theme and without flavor has grown greatly.&nbsp; The entire class leaves me with a blah feeling deep, deep within my soul.&nbsp; And, yes, I know I can add flavor of my own to the class.&nbsp; As I've said, in this particular campaign, due to the personalities, themes, and settings involved, I don't think that doing so would have the desired effect or be worthwhile.&nbsp; Fortunately, Darth Kilmor was only passingly interested in the idea, it seems, and we're discussing other options that we'd both find more interesting.I did want to comment on the Leadership issue, though.&nbsp; Indeed, I don't really like Leadership.&nbsp; I've found it hard to run support NPCs successfully in any incarnation of D&amp;D precisely because they tend to either become personality-less patches for the party's limits or they take up a lot of DM time to maintain.&nbsp; Fortunately the discussion on that score is still probably a few months off at the group's current exp pace.However, the situation of a cleric taking a wizard cohort doesn't align itself exactly with the Mystic Theurge situation.&nbsp; True, the cohort doesn't detract at all from the cleric's progression (save for buying Leadership), and has an &quot;extra&quot; action to cast spells.&nbsp; On the other hand, the wizard might have some form of personality that balks at the idea of blowing every single spell slot to buff the party and prepare utility spells and then hide at the fringe of combat hoping no monster picks on the lower-HD, lower-HP, unbuffed spellcaster.&nbsp; For the Mystic Theurge, one of the spell columns can easily be devoted to the spells that a single-classed caster would rarely load up on, since the other column can be used to maintain the character's primary role.&nbsp; That a cohort might behave that way, again, becomes a serious flavor issue that makes me question allowing Leadership as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samhaine, post: 2697811, member: 4873"] Oh.. wow.. this thread is still going. After reading through the thread, my belief that the class is overpowered has dwindled significantly. Conversely, my belief that it is mediocre in theme and without flavor has grown greatly. The entire class leaves me with a blah feeling deep, deep within my soul. And, yes, I know I can add flavor of my own to the class. As I've said, in this particular campaign, due to the personalities, themes, and settings involved, I don't think that doing so would have the desired effect or be worthwhile. Fortunately, Darth Kilmor was only passingly interested in the idea, it seems, and we're discussing other options that we'd both find more interesting. I did want to comment on the Leadership issue, though. Indeed, I don't really like Leadership. I've found it hard to run support NPCs successfully in any incarnation of D&D precisely because they tend to either become personality-less patches for the party's limits or they take up a lot of DM time to maintain. Fortunately the discussion on that score is still probably a few months off at the group's current exp pace. However, the situation of a cleric taking a wizard cohort doesn't align itself exactly with the Mystic Theurge situation. True, the cohort doesn't detract at all from the cleric's progression (save for buying Leadership), and has an "extra" action to cast spells. On the other hand, the wizard might have some form of personality that balks at the idea of blowing every single spell slot to buff the party and prepare utility spells and then hide at the fringe of combat hoping no monster picks on the lower-HD, lower-HP, unbuffed spellcaster. For the Mystic Theurge, one of the spell columns can easily be devoted to the spells that a single-classed caster would rarely load up on, since the other column can be used to maintain the character's primary role. That a cohort might behave that way, again, becomes a serious flavor issue that makes me question allowing Leadership as well. [/QUOTE]

Verification