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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flexor the Mighty!" data-source="post: 7999006" data-attributes="member: 1013">Just thinking.  I remember reading letters in The Forum in Dragon back at the tail end of the 1e era when it seemed like every one wanted dragons to be more and more powerful.  I began to read articles where DM's described them as more of a thieves guild than a monster.   Then 2e jacked them through the roof and later editions mostly kept that going.  I'm glad my current game still has a 6 HD 30 HP black dragon as a foe to kill with a treasure to loot.  And no doubt when a group gets a 30 points in a face full of acid its no joke.  Many cut and run at that point.  And that 88 HP huge Ancient Red is going to require a different approach but dragons are there to be defeated.   And looted.</blockquote>