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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 7999482" data-attributes="member: 7023840">That is great .... for you. Which is why, despite you being manifestly wrong (IMO), I do not go to your house, slap the dice out of your hand, pee on your table, and demand that you play Champions instead.I would start with what I hope is a banal observation; as the 500 lb gorilla in the FRPG market, D&amp;D means different things to different people. So for someone (like you) to say that this is what D&amp;D is (your emphasis) can be downright obnoxious to people who play a different way. What, are you saying that, since I don't play in the same way that you do, I am not playing &quot;real D&amp;D?&quot; I certainly hope not, because I am not about to let you come into my house and pee on my table.I would go from there to further state that &quot;D&amp;D&quot; as a term encompasses both a lot of different rules (OD&amp;D, B/X, 1e are all &quot;D&amp;D&quot;), a lot of settings (Dark Sun is just as mush &quot;D&amp;D&quot; as is Ghost Walk or Lankhmar or Blackmoor or Nentir Vale or Mahasarpa).Finally, even if you constrain yourself to 5e, there is a remarkable variance of play as we see from these boards. I know it's truly unfashionable to bring it up, but you've read the DMG, right? Those are rules just like anything else in 5e ... it's even a core book! And it's quite easy to fashion a hardcore game just using the DMG in 5e; let alone temper expectations that every character is ready to put the smackdown on Thanos, and the gods themselves will tremble when your 6th level PC snaps their fingers.Again- some people like pure, escapist, fantasy, devoid of real consequence where you don't fear the Balrogs; you just kill 'em and take their stuff on the way to deciding what powers you get when you level up. That's cool! But try to refrain from telling everyone else that they are playing it wrong if they don't feel like using the D&amp;D rules to emulate Marvel FASERIP.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 7999482, member: 7023840"] That is great .... [B]for you[/B]. Which is why, despite you being manifestly wrong (IMO), I do not go to your house, slap the dice out of your hand, pee on your table, and demand that you play Champions instead. I would start with what I hope is a banal observation; as the 500 lb gorilla in the FRPG market, D&D means different things to different people. So for someone (like you) to say that this is what D&D [B]is[I] (your emphasis) [/I][/B]can be downright obnoxious to people who play a different way. What, are you saying that, since I don't play in the same way that you do, I am not playing "real D&D?" I certainly hope not, because I am not about to let you come into my house and pee on my table. I would go from there to further state that "D&D" as a term encompasses both a lot of different rules (OD&D, B/X, 1e are all "D&D"), a lot of settings (Dark Sun is just as mush "D&D" as is Ghost Walk or Lankhmar or Blackmoor or Nentir Vale or Mahasarpa). Finally, even if you constrain yourself to 5e, there is a remarkable variance of play as we see from these boards. I know it's truly unfashionable to bring it up, but you've read the DMG, right? Those are rules just like anything else in 5e ... it's even a core book! And it's quite easy to fashion a hardcore game just using the DMG in 5e; let alone temper expectations that every character is ready to put the smackdown on Thanos, and the gods themselves will tremble when your 6th level PC snaps their fingers. Again- some people like pure, escapist, fantasy, devoid of real consequence where you don't fear the Balrogs; you just kill 'em and take their stuff on the way to deciding what powers you get when you level up. That's cool! But try to refrain from telling everyone else that they are playing it wrong if they don't feel like using the D&D rules to emulate Marvel FASERIP. [/QUOTE]

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