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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4886439" data-attributes="member: 40961">I'm afraid I have to disagree, for three reasons. 1. The nostalgia claim hasn't been debunked so much as its been attacked as unethical and insulting.  There is no logical connection between "I find that insulting" and "that is incorrect." 2. I feel a nostalgic connection to my olden days with the Rules Cyclopedia.  It is possible that I am a statistically anomalous freak of nature, but I have little reason to believe this to be likely. 3. One of the more common complaints about retro clones is that they often include older game mechanics that are not actually optimum for what they are intended to accomplish.  I tend to agree with this complaint.  It seems at times that newer, better ways of accomplishing the same things have been developed, but not always adopted by the retro clone community.  This would be most easily explained by an emotional connection to the trappings of older games. I recognize that these are human issues and unsuited for clear, objective proof.  I cannot reach into the brains of the retro game community as a whole and extract absolute truth about their emotions.  It is possible that, for example, someone might objectively and impartially hold the opinion that THAC0 is more elegant and usable than other possible systems.  I cannot reach into the brain of this hypothetical example person and determine their motivations for holding this view.  I simply find it implausible that they hold it for strictly logical and impartial reasons, due largely to my knowledge of multiple mechanical systems in multiple games, and my asssessment of the general awkwardness of THAC0 in comparison.  As before, I cannot reach objective truth on these sorts of estimations.  I also do not intend to be bullied on the subject by ridiculous bluster about the alleged insult of claiming that people sometimes hold nostalgic connections to the pasttimes of their childhood. Additionally, when the question is whether retro games are overrated, the nature of people's attachment to them is germane.  In fact, it is the entire subject matter.  So in spite of the general reticience to speculate as to other's motives on these boards, I tend to feel that this sort of speculation in this specific instance should either be permitted, or the entire subject locked.</blockquote>

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