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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nightraven" data-source="post: 4851566" data-attributes="member: 84088">Treebore, I didn't mean to say 1E AD&D was a better system then C&C, to each their own. 1E AD&D just seems like the system people (my age) go to first when trying to describe what the version or game they are playing is like (at least amongst the old timers I know) thus the default. Its old enough to be a root (and was the first break out version with the most players), but complete enough to offer points of comparison (where OD&D seemed so basic leaving stuff up to the DM and allowing max variation between tables, it has fewer points of comparison, and even those points wouldn't be legit as the DM was supposed to have a more flexible system to mold).  I remember explaining 3E when it came out in terms of how it was similar and different to 1E (not OD&D). I did the same with C&C. I think this was because around here most know the 1E system (not so much OD&D, or if they did it was heavily home brewed). I also picture the development of the FRPG industry like a tree, and 1E (having been the most popular, first, and most complete at the time) is its massive trunk from which everything grew out in all sorts of directions...4E its latest (OD&D and Chainmail its roots).  I only mention OSRIC because its in print at lulu, is already widely distributed and its 1E. It has nothing to do with numbers of sales or its placement in stores.</blockquote>