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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5730674" data-attributes="member: 50895">I don't think one can be critical of any game system and not expect some extremist to respond in a less than helpful way. There's always going to be haters in any discussion on a public forum. You can't get away from that (I wouldn't let yourself worry about that, just concentrate on the reasonable answers). You can talk about sports, politics, religion - any subject and somebody will give a hate response at some point, it can't be avoided. But you needn't dwell on the haters.  While I certainly mentioned 4e in one of my posts, 4e is an update to the D&D rules, so I still think it belongs in the discussion, along with Trailblazer, GURPS, M&M, Pathfinder and many other rule sets, as each are an update to the D&D rules in some measure.You shouldn't discount out of hand any responses that mention 4e, as it is indeed part of the discussion, or at least should be.  You have a right to your opinion, which could be very different from others, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, you did use the word 'worshippers' regarding PF fans, which is an insulting word. Just because someone is a fan of a given game system, does not make them worshippers. (I can honestly say, I worship nothing - not even a deity.) I also prefer PF over 4e, but I don't hate 4e - in fact I don't hate any game. I see 'game hate' as an unreasonable position to be in for anyone, so it would be best that you leave those kinds of responders out of the conversation, as they offer nothing helpful. Looking over these posts in this thread, it seems most are being reasonable (some aren't, but those few needn't poison the discussion).  As an aside, I do have Trailblazer which I purchased before purchasing PF, however, having read both sets of rules, while Trailblazer offers some interesting points, PF is closer to the rules update that I prefer. What are you expecting or hoping to resolve from this discussion, WalkingDad?</blockquote>

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