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<blockquote data-quote="Grymar" data-source="post: 4723671" data-attributes="member: 41371"><p>Exactly. </p><p></p><p>I pull up a griffon off of the SRD for my pathfinder game...what do I need to change?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#sizeAndType" target="_blank">Size/Type</a>: <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/combat/movementPositionAndDistance.htm#bigandLittleCreaturesInCombat" target="_blank">Large</a> <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#magicalBeastType" target="_blank">Magical Beast</a> </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#hitDice" target="_blank">Hit Dice</a>: <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">7d10+21</a> (59 hp) </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#initiative" target="_blank">Initiative</a>: <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+2</a> </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#speed" target="_blank">Speed</a>: 30 ft. (6 squares), <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#fly" target="_blank">fly</a> 80 ft. (average) </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#armorClass" target="_blank">Armor Class</a>: 17 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +6 natural), touch 11, <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/conditionSummary.htm#flatFooted" target="_blank">flat-footed</a> 15 </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#baseAttackGrapple" target="_blank">Base Attack/Grapple</a>: <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+7</a>/<a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+15</a> </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#attack" target="_blank">Attack</a>: <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#bite" target="_blank">Bite</a> <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+11</a> melee (<a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">2d6+4</a>) </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#fullAttack" target="_blank">Full Attack</a>: <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#bite" target="_blank">Bite</a> <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+11</a> melee (<a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">2d6+4</a>) and 2 <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#claworTalon" target="_blank">claws</a> <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+8</a> melee (<a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">1d4+2</a>) </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#spaceReach" target="_blank">Space/Reach</a>: 10 ft./5 ft. </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#specialAttacksAndSpecialQualities" target="_blank">Special Attacks</a>: <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#pounce" target="_blank">Pounce</a>, <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#rake" target="_blank">rake</a> <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">1d6+2</a> </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#specialAttacksAndSpecialQualities" target="_blank">Special Qualities</a>: <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#darkvision" target="_blank">Darkvision</a> 60 ft., <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#lowLightVision" target="_blank">low-light vision</a>, <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#scent" target="_blank">scent</a> </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#saves" target="_blank">Saves</a>: Fort <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+8</a>, Ref <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+7</a>, Will <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+5</a> </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#abilities" target="_blank">Abilities</a>: Str 18, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 5, Wis 13, Cha 8 </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#skills" target="_blank">Skills</a>: <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/skills/jump.htm" target="_blank">Jump</a> <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+8</a>, <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/skills/listen.htm" target="_blank">Listen</a> <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+6</a>, <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/skills/spot.htm" target="_blank">Spot</a> <a href="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;" target="_blank">+10</a> </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#feats" target="_blank">Feats</a>: <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/feats.htm#ironWill" target="_blank">Iron Will</a>, <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsterFeats.htm#multiattack" target="_blank">Multiattack</a>, <a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/feats.htm#weaponFocus" target="_blank">Weapon Focus</a> (bite) </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#environment" target="_blank">Environment</a>: Temperate hills </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#organization" target="_blank">Organization</a>: Solitary, pair, or pride (6-10) </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#challengeRating" target="_blank">Challenge Rating</a>: 4 </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#treasure" target="_blank">Treasure</a>: None </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#alignment" target="_blank">Alignment</a>: Always neutral </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#advancement" target="_blank">Advancement</a>: 8-10 HD (Large); 11-21 HD (Huge) </p><p><a href="http://file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#levelAdjustment" target="_blank">Level Adjustment</a>: +3 (cohort)</p><p></p><p>Size? No change</p><p>HD? No change</p><p>Init? No change</p><p>Speed? No change</p><p>Armor Class? No change</p><p><strong>BAB/Grapple? Rename Grapple CMB.</strong></p><p>Attack? No change</p><p>Full Attack? No change</p><p>Space/Reach? No change</p><p>Special Qualities? No change</p><p>Saves? No change</p><p>Abilities? No change</p><p><strong>Skills? Jump becomes Athletics, 3+1/2HD+STR is how I've been doing it...+10. Listen/Spot become Perception, which is +8</strong>.</p><p>Feats? No change</p><p>Environment? No change</p><p>Organization? No change</p><p>Challenge Rating? No change</p><p>Treasure? No change</p><p>Alignment? No change</p><p>Advancement? No change</p><p>Level Adjustment? No change</p><p></p><p>So I just converted a standard 3.5 creature to pathfinder and it took...1 minute? Less, even if I didn't type out all of the "no change" text. I generally do this on the fly, taking 15 seconds to calculate the skill changes if it comes up since so often I don't even need skills for monsters.</p><p></p><p>Yes, it would be more difficult if it was an awakened Griffon with four levels of cleric and three of wizard, but still it would take very little time.</p><p></p><p>{edit: formatting fixes}</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grymar, post: 4723671, member: 41371"] Exactly. I pull up a griffon off of the SRD for my pathfinder game...what do I need to change? [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#sizeAndType"]Size/Type[/URL]: [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/combat/movementPositionAndDistance.htm#bigandLittleCreaturesInCombat"]Large[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#magicalBeastType"]Magical Beast[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#hitDice"]Hit Dice[/URL]: [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]7d10+21[/URL] (59 hp) [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#initiative"]Initiative[/URL]: [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+2[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#speed"]Speed[/URL]: 30 ft. (6 squares), [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#fly"]fly[/URL] 80 ft. (average) [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#armorClass"]Armor Class[/URL]: 17 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +6 natural), touch 11, [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/conditionSummary.htm#flatFooted"]flat-footed[/URL] 15 [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#baseAttackGrapple"]Base Attack/Grapple[/URL]: [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+7[/URL]/[URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+15[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#attack"]Attack[/URL]: [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#bite"]Bite[/URL] [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+11[/URL] melee ([URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]2d6+4[/URL]) [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#fullAttack"]Full Attack[/URL]: [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#bite"]Bite[/URL] [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+11[/URL] melee ([URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]2d6+4[/URL]) and 2 [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#claworTalon"]claws[/URL] [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+8[/URL] melee ([URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]1d4+2[/URL]) [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#spaceReach"]Space/Reach[/URL]: 10 ft./5 ft. [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#specialAttacksAndSpecialQualities"]Special Attacks[/URL]: [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#pounce"]Pounce[/URL], [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#rake"]rake[/URL] [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]1d6+2[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#specialAttacksAndSpecialQualities"]Special Qualities[/URL]: [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#darkvision"]Darkvision[/URL] 60 ft., [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#lowLightVision"]low-light vision[/URL], [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/specialAbilities.htm#scent"]scent[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#saves"]Saves[/URL]: Fort [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+8[/URL], Ref [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+7[/URL], Will [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+5[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#abilities"]Abilities[/URL]: Str 18, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 5, Wis 13, Cha 8 [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#skills"]Skills[/URL]: [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/skills/jump.htm"]Jump[/URL] [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+8[/URL], [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/skills/listen.htm"]Listen[/URL] [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+6[/URL], [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/skills/spot.htm"]Spot[/URL] [URL="http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;"]+10[/URL] [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#feats"]Feats[/URL]: [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/feats.htm#ironWill"]Iron Will[/URL], [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsterFeats.htm#multiattack"]Multiattack[/URL], [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/feats.htm#weaponFocus"]Weapon Focus[/URL] (bite) [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#environment"]Environment[/URL]: Temperate hills [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#organization"]Organization[/URL]: Solitary, pair, or pride (6-10) [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#challengeRating"]Challenge Rating[/URL]: 4 [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#treasure"]Treasure[/URL]: None [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#alignment"]Alignment[/URL]: Always neutral [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#advancement"]Advancement[/URL]: 8-10 HD (Large); 11-21 HD (Huge) [URL="file://///lt1018/c$/Documents%20and%20Settings/oconnk/My%20Documents/srd/srd/monsters/intro.htm#levelAdjustment"]Level Adjustment[/URL]: +3 (cohort) Size? No change HD? No change Init? No change Speed? No change Armor Class? No change [B]BAB/Grapple? Rename Grapple CMB.[/B] Attack? No change Full Attack? No change Space/Reach? No change Special Qualities? No change Saves? No change Abilities? No change [B]Skills? Jump becomes Athletics, 3+1/2HD+STR is how I've been doing it...+10. Listen/Spot become Perception, which is +8[/B]. Feats? No change Environment? No change Organization? No change Challenge Rating? No change Treasure? No change Alignment? No change Advancement? No change Level Adjustment? No change So I just converted a standard 3.5 creature to pathfinder and it took...1 minute? Less, even if I didn't type out all of the "no change" text. I generally do this on the fly, taking 15 seconds to calculate the skill changes if it comes up since so often I don't even need skills for monsters. Yes, it would be more difficult if it was an awakened Griffon with four levels of cleric and three of wizard, but still it would take very little time. {edit: formatting fixes} [/QUOTE]
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