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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nilbog" data-source="post: 7627223" data-attributes="member: 98183">I'm looking forward to PF2.  My group primarily plays 5e, and while we love the system, there is a yearning for more crunch, so we've been looking at trying new systems.  I swore off both PF1 and 3e, as I found them incredibly time consuming and frustrating to DM for, and while we like 4e, none of our group currently has a subscription to the online char generator and with the amount of options, char gen is a nightmare without it.I'm really hoping (and from what I read in the playtest) the PF2 could land in the sweet spot, or be the closest system to it, for our group.  So maybe Paizo think that as well as lot of people who want to move from PF1, there are also a few people out there who want to try something different from 5e, and what with 5e drawing a lot of new players it may be time to dip their toes?</blockquote>