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<blockquote data-quote="zztong" data-source="post: 7631400" data-attributes="member: 6943414"><p>Ah, I get you now. Thanks for the clarification.</p><p></p><p>I didn't play 4e beyond the first year and remember very little about it. I've only played 5e now for 3 sessions, about 10 hours, so I wasn't able to see the pattern you were identifying.</p><p></p><p>I would say that the appeal of the 5e +1/4 approach, to me, isn't so much that the characters differentiate themselves in different ways. The value to me is that the compressed math keeps the monsters I like viable. A fast-moving mathematical "level treadmill" is actually unappealing to me as both a player and a DM, so I'd probably like a 4e +1/2 over PF2's +1/1.</p><p></p><p>I don't mind characters progressing at slightly different rates -- that actually still works when the overall mathematical range remains compressed. This is partly why 1e/2e worked -- the exponential XP scale meant characters rarely got above 11th -- and why DMs who capped D&D 3x and PF1 games at levels like 9.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zztong, post: 7631400, member: 6943414"] Ah, I get you now. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't play 4e beyond the first year and remember very little about it. I've only played 5e now for 3 sessions, about 10 hours, so I wasn't able to see the pattern you were identifying. I would say that the appeal of the 5e +1/4 approach, to me, isn't so much that the characters differentiate themselves in different ways. The value to me is that the compressed math keeps the monsters I like viable. A fast-moving mathematical "level treadmill" is actually unappealing to me as both a player and a DM, so I'd probably like a 4e +1/2 over PF2's +1/1. I don't mind characters progressing at slightly different rates -- that actually still works when the overall mathematical range remains compressed. This is partly why 1e/2e worked -- the exponential XP scale meant characters rarely got above 11th -- and why DMs who capped D&D 3x and PF1 games at levels like 9. [/QUOTE]
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