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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7636996" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Now you seem to argue in favor of 5E and simpler systems, Saelorn. All this time I've thought you were in these discussions to defend older systems (like 3.x).</p><p></p><p>If you're content with simple PC options, then of course the issue of "1 hour build; 1 minute kill" goes away. </p><p></p><p>The remaining question for you then is:</p><p></p><p>What about the calls for crunchier player character generation and build options?</p><p></p><p>If you loved 3.5 or Pathfinder as a player, you find 5E meager pickings. So you want a game with richer deeper and more complex options. </p><p></p><p>But as a DM, I <em>definitely</em> don't want that. As in I can't stand it. As in, the game won't be happening at all (with me as DM - I could probably use the game as a player, since that means the nightmarish admin is somebody else's problem <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> )</p><p></p><p>Ergo the solution to split PC and NPC generation rules!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7636996, member: 12731"] Now you seem to argue in favor of 5E and simpler systems, Saelorn. All this time I've thought you were in these discussions to defend older systems (like 3.x). If you're content with simple PC options, then of course the issue of "1 hour build; 1 minute kill" goes away. The remaining question for you then is: What about the calls for crunchier player character generation and build options? If you loved 3.5 or Pathfinder as a player, you find 5E meager pickings. So you want a game with richer deeper and more complex options. But as a DM, I [I]definitely[/I] don't want that. As in I can't stand it. As in, the game won't be happening at all (with me as DM - I could probably use the game as a player, since that means the nightmarish admin is somebody else's problem ;) ) Ergo the solution to split PC and NPC generation rules! [/QUOTE]
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