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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 7639211" data-attributes="member: 5834">I don't agree. Spell durations are exactly like 5E. Powers are still very 3E like providing unique bonuses and not necessarily doing damage. Heightening is exactly like 5E which 4E did not have. There are no encounter powers. It's nothing like 4E.If you have played 4E, then you know it did not have a 3 action economy. Nothing of the kind. You're reaching to shove it in the 4E box for some reason. I'm not sure why. Anyone that has played 4E will know PF2 is nothing like 4E. It's more like 5E in some areas and more like 3E in others like focus points and use on demand abilities rather than encounter or daily.PF2 is it's own game. None of the mechanics you list were in 4E. I played that game and despised it. I know it well having gave it a good run as I do every edition of D&D. Anyone that has played 5E will see that PF2 drew some mechanics from 5E like spell durations and heightening. That it kept old D&D Vancian magic, something 4E didn't even try to do. That's its power structure is based on focus points, use on demand, and none that encounter power like 3E than encounter and daily video game like mechanics.It is most definitely not 4E. I'm not going to discuss that comparison any longer because I despired 4E. Any discussion will bring out my vitriol recalling a game that almost ruined D&D. I'm glad 5E restored the fun in D&D for many. 5E felt far more like D&D even if I didn't enjoy running it. As far as PF2, we'll see where it ends up. It's so different and seems to pull from so much, it's hard to say whether I will like it or not.</blockquote>

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