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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7640859" data-attributes="member: 996">That's about the idea, well, except for the assumption of magical crossbows, if that's what you meant (5e assumes no magic items & no feats; and, cantrips scale in step with extra attacks, so would leave a crossbow in the dust, due to the loading property).Cantrips are an at-will baseline that stays a bit below the at-will baseline of non- (and 1/2 & 1/3rd &c) casters, so, if a 'day' is long enough, that difference adds up to the difference between the at-will baseline and that spell-casting spikes......and, yes, it does seem to be fairly neatly formulaic in terms of DPR, which /is/ the most easily calculated, thus most easily criticized metric with which D&D is typically flogged.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />But, it completely ignores versatility, the more difficult metric that organized the infamous 3.x "Class Tiers" which, really, haven't changed /that/ dramatically in 5e (apart from there being dramatically fewer classes, and the Bard really climbing).Not see'n that so much.  I mean, I /like/ that there are downtime rules, at all, but I don't see how they balance anything, they're just kinda neat. Out of combat balance is between at-will resources (checks) which casters are at least as good at as non-casters, and rituals, which are a little more time-consuming, though also unlimited-use.  So, again, it's a matter of imposing some rough balance through time-pressure.</blockquote>

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