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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7641943" data-attributes="member: 996">TBF, D&amp;D has always had a lot of mechanics, we get used to some, ignore, ban or change others - heck, in most eds, to some extent, each spell is its own little mechanical sub-system.But, yeah, 5e is lauded (or critcized or analyzed) by us fans down its rabbit hole, for its mechanics, but it's not sold to new players on that basis, at all...&nbsp;There's always been two get distinct markets for RPGs, the huge, virtually untapped market of people who haven't played an RPG yet, and the tiny, extremely fragmented &amp; niche market of those who have, weren't immediately &amp; completely repelled by the experience, and have been looking for something better than D&amp;D that they can actually find a few other players to play it with......ok, as with all pronouncements that start with &quot;There are two kinds of...&quot; that was excluding a LOT:&nbsp; there's markets within any given fandom for licensed RPGs, there's market for RPGs that are a good read that'll never be played, there's demand for RPGs that are just vehicles to present a few experimental mechanics, etc......which just means that the market that's not non-gamers deciding whether or not to try D&amp;D is all the more niche.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7641943, member: 996"] TBF, D&D has always had a lot of mechanics, we get used to some, ignore, ban or change others - heck, in most eds, to some extent, each spell is its own little mechanical sub-system. But, yeah, 5e is lauded (or critcized or analyzed) by us fans down its rabbit hole, for its mechanics, but it's not sold to new players on that basis, at all... There's always been two get distinct markets for RPGs, the huge, virtually untapped market of people who haven't played an RPG yet, and the tiny, extremely fragmented & niche market of those who have, weren't immediately & completely repelled by the experience, and have been looking for something better than D&D that they can actually find a few other players to play it with... ...ok, as with all pronouncements that start with "There are two kinds of..." that was excluding a LOT: there's markets within any given fandom for licensed RPGs, there's market for RPGs that are a good read that'll never be played, there's demand for RPGs that are just vehicles to present a few experimental mechanics, etc... ...which just means that the market that's not non-gamers deciding whether or not to try D&D is all the more niche. [/QUOTE]

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