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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mewzard" data-source="post: 7642100" data-attributes="member: 6958830">As a PF1 fan who absolutely hates 4E...I want to play PF2e so badly. While I've loved my years with Pathfinder since our group ditched 4E (and thank God for that), the game is starting to really show its flaws with age. Whether it's one of the DMs finding building encounters a pain, another DM's frustration about balance, a player's annoyance at trap options, or my own desires to not have to sacrifice out of combat utility or stick to stringent guides just to not feel underwhelming in said combat.At first, the group showed little interest in it...but as the months have passed on, and our frustrations with PF1e's flaws have grown, the group's listened more and more to the details I've been able to provide about PF2e, and there's some level of excitement, to at least give it a proper look into. One DM in particular thinks the game could be a fine enough game to bring new players in without having to go 5e.For me, the game's been looking like the perfect middle ground between PF1e and 5e that I've needed. I won't know for sure until we play, but I haven't been this excited for potentially swapping systems since I first looked at Pathfinder when 4e's flaws were really starting to grate on me.</blockquote>