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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7642194" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>By it's qualities, at the table, the new player has no experience of the prior ed, thus none if the changes. If you're playing for the first time with an experienced DM, his attitudes towards those changes /might/ have an effect on the experience he delivers, though</p><p> Yes. Happens a lot, RPGs aren't for everyone. It might, if they were invested enough in the hobby to assertively share the experience.</p><p></p><p>But, there's only so many new players the hobby can accommodate, anyway. Relatively few DMs are born, most need experience. </p><p></p><p>So a steady stream is probably better than a sudden flood.</p><p> Buzz is a funny thing, and it's one area where nerdy/cult properties have to tread especially carefully. A few newbs disliking an established cult IP will be told off, with practiced defensiveness and well-honed arguments, and aren't invested enough to dig in. A few disgruntled hardcore fans, OTOH, can get quite the torrent of nerdrage going.</p><p></p><p></p><p>From established fans who disapproved of changes, yes. Grognards were incensed at 3e's grid dependence, RaW-obsession, Multi-classing, & player entitlement, among other things, for instance, and with 3.5 as a 'money-grab.' Similar diatribes were locked and loaded before 4e even hit the shelves.</p><p></p><p>New players weren't making those complaints.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7642194, member: 996"] By it's qualities, at the table, the new player has no experience of the prior ed, thus none if the changes. If you're playing for the first time with an experienced DM, his attitudes towards those changes /might/ have an effect on the experience he delivers, though Yes. Happens a lot, RPGs aren't for everyone. It might, if they were invested enough in the hobby to assertively share the experience. But, there's only so many new players the hobby can accommodate, anyway. Relatively few DMs are born, most need experience. So a steady stream is probably better than a sudden flood. Buzz is a funny thing, and it's one area where nerdy/cult properties have to tread especially carefully. A few newbs disliking an established cult IP will be told off, with practiced defensiveness and well-honed arguments, and aren't invested enough to dig in. A few disgruntled hardcore fans, OTOH, can get quite the torrent of nerdrage going. From established fans who disapproved of changes, yes. Grognards were incensed at 3e's grid dependence, RaW-obsession, Multi-classing, & player entitlement, among other things, for instance, and with 3.5 as a 'money-grab.' Similar diatribes were locked and loaded before 4e even hit the shelves. New players weren't making those complaints. [/QUOTE]
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