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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 7644423" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>Strangely enough, it makes sense how Pathfinder define the stealth concepts. This one is just codifying what (basically) existed in 3E before it.</p><p></p><p>Unnoticed - you don't even know the monster is there. You're flat-footed against it, and some abilities it has work against you (assassination, I guess).</p><p>Undetected - you know the monster is there, but not which square it's in. You have to choose the right square to attack, and there's a 50% miss chance, and you're flat-footed against it.</p><p>Hidden - you know the monster is there and where it's standing, but you can't see it. There's a 50% miss chance, and you're flat-footed against it.</p><p>Observed - you can see the monster. Normal rules!</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile there's</p><p>Invisible - You're undetected until someone notices you (with Seek), then you become Hidden.</p><p>Concealed - You can't see the monster clearly. 20% miss chance.</p><p></p><p>Because Pathfinder like pinning down stuff, you also have Hostile, Unfriendly, Indifferent, Friendly and Helpful for NPC attitudes.</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 7644423, member: 3586"] Strangely enough, it makes sense how Pathfinder define the stealth concepts. This one is just codifying what (basically) existed in 3E before it. Unnoticed - you don't even know the monster is there. You're flat-footed against it, and some abilities it has work against you (assassination, I guess). Undetected - you know the monster is there, but not which square it's in. You have to choose the right square to attack, and there's a 50% miss chance, and you're flat-footed against it. Hidden - you know the monster is there and where it's standing, but you can't see it. There's a 50% miss chance, and you're flat-footed against it. Observed - you can see the monster. Normal rules! Meanwhile there's Invisible - You're undetected until someone notices you (with Seek), then you become Hidden. Concealed - You can't see the monster clearly. 20% miss chance. Because Pathfinder like pinning down stuff, you also have Hostile, Unfriendly, Indifferent, Friendly and Helpful for NPC attitudes. Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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