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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7817314" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>There's no way to say this diplomatically so I'll just say it: I think the structural design is horrible.</p><p></p><p>The game asks you to devote brain power to some of the tiniest, littlest, most circumstantial effects I have ever come across in any game.</p><p></p><p>I see no reason whatsoever why magic items must be so utterly mundane. The real question is why Talismans weren't designed to be worthwhile and powerful and attractive and fun.</p><p></p><p>After all, they could just have cost more if there was a concern over balance.</p><p></p><p>But Talismans as written? You could easily just ignore all of them and not even realize you missed out.</p><p></p><p>Because, oh boy, you aren't missing out!</p><p></p><p>Spending time to write down their names and what they do, and then select which one to affix, and remembering to use it at the exact time... For what? The tiniest shittiest pathetic little one-time bonus? With a real risk of frustration over not spotting the perfect time to use it, or finding out you affixed the wrong one and just waited in vain the whole fight, or simply by realizing you JUST missed your shot at getting good use out of the annoying little bonus there was!</p><p></p><p>No, I am personally offended by the very thought anyone is expected to bother with a single Talisman, at all.</p><p></p><p>To me the designer is giving me a giant F U sign. I hate the design with every fiber of my being.</p><p></p><p>Especially since there was no reason to create them in that way, and every reason to not create anything that whiffs of 4th edition! I truly am flabbergasted anyone at Paizo thought the implementation to be a good idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7817314, member: 12731"] There's no way to say this diplomatically so I'll just say it: I think the structural design is horrible. The game asks you to devote brain power to some of the tiniest, littlest, most circumstantial effects I have ever come across in any game. I see no reason whatsoever why magic items must be so utterly mundane. The real question is why Talismans weren't designed to be worthwhile and powerful and attractive and fun. After all, they could just have cost more if there was a concern over balance. But Talismans as written? You could easily just ignore all of them and not even realize you missed out. Because, oh boy, you aren't missing out! Spending time to write down their names and what they do, and then select which one to affix, and remembering to use it at the exact time... For what? The tiniest shittiest pathetic little one-time bonus? With a real risk of frustration over not spotting the perfect time to use it, or finding out you affixed the wrong one and just waited in vain the whole fight, or simply by realizing you JUST missed your shot at getting good use out of the annoying little bonus there was! No, I am personally offended by the very thought anyone is expected to bother with a single Talisman, at all. To me the designer is giving me a giant F U sign. I hate the design with every fiber of my being. Especially since there was no reason to create them in that way, and every reason to not create anything that whiffs of 4th edition! I truly am flabbergasted anyone at Paizo thought the implementation to be a good idea. [/QUOTE]
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