Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dark Mistress" data-source="post: 5385643" data-attributes="member: 11816">Ok first off let me say, This is just from my personal experience and from talking to other people I game with. My group is cross tied to two other groups, one of which i play in sometimes, but the other one I never play with but sometimes see and talk to. Ditching the battle mat and mini's greatly speeds up combat in PF/3.5 I would say on avg it cuts the time in half or near enough. We tried doing it with 4e but 4e is a lot more tied to using the map that we ended up going back to it.At low levels I found PF/3.5 to be faster, at mid levels I found it to be much faster. But I do know PF/3.5 tends to slow down at higher levels, if 4e stayed the same and it seemed to from the levels we played in. Then at high level i would say they would be about the same.I personally found 4e combat more boring than PF/3.5 combat for one simple reason. Often times it seemed it was very obvious which side was going to win, to the point there was no doubt. Yet the fight was barely half over. Those fights got boring in a hurry.But if you want some truely fast fights you might want to look at some of the retro clones like Sword and Wizardy or Castles and Crusades. As they are closer to 1e. Me I like more options so prefer PF, but you may just like the fast combat better.</blockquote>