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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Festivus" data-source="post: 5403908" data-attributes="member: 34532">I'll stop after this I promise <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I too grew up on much the same as you did.  I love the d20 system as a step up from the mayhem of 1E/AD&D days when everyone had different houserules.  But what drives me nuts, even today, is not the over all game system, but how things are written for it.  In 4E, everything I need is right there, I don't need to look up anything.A first level adventure in Pathfinder I was DMing just the other night, I had to refer to the stat block in the adventure, which referred me to a creature in the beastiary, which had an ability that I had to look up in the core rulebook.  Why!?!?  That one thing alone makes it more difficult (and intimidating) for someone to want to step in and run.Rules familiarity helps a lot with this... but seriously, look at that tome known as the core rulebook and tell me it isn't intimidating.I for one cannot wait for the new starter set Paizo is constructing... I just wish they would draw on that one design principle from 4e and include everything you need in the freaking stat blocks so you don't have to search everywhere for information.</blockquote>