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<blockquote data-quote="Feeroper" data-source="post: 5618105" data-attributes="member: 83317"><p>Erdrick Dragon - You do know <a href="http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6366/dungeons-dragons-the-fantasy-adventure-board-game" target="_blank">D&D board games</a> are not exlusive to 4E? </p><p> </p><p>Same with <a href="http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/20806/three-dragon-ante" target="_blank">card games</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Also, they never released the Ravenloft game they talked about. Sure there are elements from Ravenloft within the core D&D world a la the Shadowfell, but it is not Ravenloft. There was the board game for Ravenloft, but it is certainly not part of the RPG line. </p><p> </p><p>I personally love 4e (and Ive been playing all forms of D&D since 2nd edition - I even enjoy a good Pathfinder game from time to time), but I would not call it a "dumbing down". They have just made it more streamlined, although it certainly isnt without its issues. Ive found with 4e Ive had a much easier time getting non-RPG folk in to play and enjoy than I had with previous editions. In my experience it has been good for the hobby in this day and age where it gets harder and harder to compete with video games and the like. </p><p> </p><p>However, I understand your thoughts/feelings about this, and Im not trying to call you out or say you are wrong, just wanted to point out that some of your argument above ignored that board/card games were not exclusive to 4e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Feeroper, post: 5618105, member: 83317"] Erdrick Dragon - You do know [URL="http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6366/dungeons-dragons-the-fantasy-adventure-board-game"]D&D board games[/URL] are not exlusive to 4E? Same with [URL="http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/20806/three-dragon-ante"]card games[/URL]. Also, they never released the Ravenloft game they talked about. Sure there are elements from Ravenloft within the core D&D world a la the Shadowfell, but it is not Ravenloft. There was the board game for Ravenloft, but it is certainly not part of the RPG line. I personally love 4e (and Ive been playing all forms of D&D since 2nd edition - I even enjoy a good Pathfinder game from time to time), but I would not call it a "dumbing down". They have just made it more streamlined, although it certainly isnt without its issues. Ive found with 4e Ive had a much easier time getting non-RPG folk in to play and enjoy than I had with previous editions. In my experience it has been good for the hobby in this day and age where it gets harder and harder to compete with video games and the like. However, I understand your thoughts/feelings about this, and Im not trying to call you out or say you are wrong, just wanted to point out that some of your argument above ignored that board/card games were not exclusive to 4e. [/QUOTE]
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