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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9835013" data-attributes="member: 29398">Again, someone starting with one or two high (as in, 16+) scores is fine with me.Perhaps.  I've seen a lot of characters come and go over the last 43+ years. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Perhaps, but I was standing there watching as they did it.  Each rolling up (yet another - they went through a lot of 'em) replacement character.  One rolled a 4, then within less than a minute (may have been just ten seconds or so, I forget now) the other one also rolled a 4 - and this is on 5d6drop2.So, odds be damned, it happened.They both put the 4 in Int., which meant they had to be Fighters as that's the only class that'll allow Int 4.I've never seen all 16+ but have seen, again rolled right in front of me, 18-18-17-17-15-15. The player - with every option open to him - went with Ranger for his class.That Ranger didn't make it through his second combat.  One of the Int-4 Fighters also didn't last very long.  The other one, somewhat incredibly, survived and is still active in the setting, though his player retired him from adventuring a while back.Depends.  For me, the best strategy comes before any dice get rolled as you attempt to mitigate the odds.  Once you're rolling dice, however, it's all up to fate.Indeed.  And in my view balance across the long haul can include, to use a hypothetical extreme example, one class sucking from levels 1-5 and being godlike from levels 6-10.IME 99+% of the time such things are connected with that person being the loudest and-or most persistent and-or most engaged talker rather than anything to do with character mechanics.That's already getting considerably deeper into the analytics than I care to bother with; and IMO analysing it to that degree isn't healthy for the game - it becomes too much an exercise in constrained math at cost of unconstrained roleplay and fun.That was one thing I noticed when playing 3e - yes the numbers kept getting bigger but even with that it always felt a little too tightly constrained.</blockquote>

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