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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3105980" data-attributes="member: 1656">Part of your problem is considering Power Attack damage for a two-handed weapon to be 'multiplied'.Mathematically, there might be no difference between:"You may choose to subtract a number from all melee attack rolls and add the same number to all melee damage rolls.  If you attack with a two-handed weapon, or with a one-handed weapon wielded in two hands, this damage is doubled."and "You may choose to subtract a number from all melee attack rolls and add the same number to all melee damage rolls.  If you attack with a two-handed weapon, or with a one-handed weapon wielded in two hands, instead add twice the number subtracted from your attack rolls."But in the first case, you are adding some damage and then multiplying it; in the second case, you are adding a larger amount of damage.The first case might fall under the multiplication rule if the damage is later doubled; the second case does not, just as adding 1.5x Str bonus damage is conceptually (though not mathematically) different to adding Str bonus to damage, then multiplying that bonus damage by 1.5.If you're multiplying your added damage, it falls under the multiplication rule if some other effect also multiplies your damage.  If you're multiplying something that isn't damage to determine your added damage, it doesn't.-Hyp.</blockquote>