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<blockquote data-quote="frisbeet" data-source="post: 1451935" data-attributes="member: 10287"><p>Not to pick on Will specifically, but this kind of analysis is kinda sucky. Turns out the Falchion is slightly <em>more</em> powerful than the greatsword, against opponents vulnerable to crits..</p><p></p><p>You really need to consider probabilities of hitting--in particular, the 18-20 vs. 19-20 crit chance.</p><p></p><p>Here's how the #s compare for average full attack damage/round against a range of ACs, with zero and optimized power attack.</p><p></p><p>This is a Fighter 18 /Barb 2, raging.</p><p>26 Str</p><p>Feats of power attack, WF, gWF, WS, gWS, iC in either Greatsword or Falchion.</p><p></p><p>Wields +5 weapon.</p><p></p><p>Both kick butt.</p><p></p><p>[CODE]opp AC GS opt PA GS+PA Fal opt PA Fal + PA</p><p>10 141.4 20 293.9 143.3 20 309.5</p><p>11 141.4 19 285.7 143.3 19 300.5</p><p>12 141.4 18 277.4 143.3 19 291.8</p><p>13 141.4 18 269.3 143.3 18 283.1</p><p>14 141.4 18 261.3 143.3 18 274.6</p><p>15 141.4 17 253.5 143.3 17 266.2</p><p>16 141.4 16 245.7 143.3 17 258.0</p><p>17 141.4 16 238.1 143.3 16 249.8</p><p>18 141.4 16 230.6 143.3 16 241.9</p><p>19 141.4 15 223.3 143.3 15 233.9</p><p>20 141.4 14 215.9 143.3 14 226.0</p><p>21 141.4 13 208.6 143.3 13 218.1</p><p>22 141.4 12 201.3 143.3 12 210.1</p><p>23 141.4 11 194.0 143.3 11 202.2</p><p>24 141.4 10 186.7 143.3 10 194.3</p><p>25 139.5 9 179.3 141.4 9 186.4</p><p>26 137.6 8 172.0 139.5 8 178.4</p><p>27 135.8 7 164.7 137.6 7 170.5</p><p>28 133.9 6 157.4 135.7 6 162.6</p><p>29 132.1 5 150.1 133.8 5 154.6</p><p>30 128.3 4 142.7 130.1 5 147.0</p><p>31 124.6 4 135.7 126.3 4 139.5</p><p>32 120.9 3 128.8 122.5 4 132.3</p><p>33 117.2 3 122.1 118.8 3 125.1</p><p>34 113.5 2 115.5 115.0 3 118.3</p><p>35 107.9 2 109.2 109.3 2 111.5</p><p>36 102.3 1 103.0 103.7 1 104.8</p><p>37 96.7 1 97.0 98.0 1 98.3</p><p>38 91.1 0 91.1 92.0 1 92.1</p><p>39 85.6 0 85.6 86.1 0 86.1</p><p>40 77.9 0 77.9 78.5 0 78.5</p><p>41 70.4 0 70.4 71.1 0 71.1</p><p>42 63.0 0 63.0 63.7 0 63.7</p><p>43 57.4 0 57.4 57.7 0 57.7</p><p>44 51.8 0 51.8 51.8 0 51.8</p><p>45 46.0 0 46.0 46.1 0 46.1</p><p>46 40.4 0 40.4 40.5 0 40.5</p><p>47 34.9 0 34.9 35.1 0 35.1</p><p>48 31.2 0 31.2 31.0 0 31.0</p><p>49 27.4 0 27.4 27.0 0 27.0</p><p>50 23.5 0 23.5 23.1 0 23.1</p><p></p><p>[/CODE]</p><p></p><p>Use mine or similar sheets to compare to your heart's content (click sig).</p><p>Ultimately, falls just short of the truth: nearly all core weapons, from an average dam/round perspective, are balanced, except perhaps Spiked Chain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frisbeet, post: 1451935, member: 10287"] Not to pick on Will specifically, but this kind of analysis is kinda sucky. Turns out the Falchion is slightly [I]more[/I] powerful than the greatsword, against opponents vulnerable to crits.. You really need to consider probabilities of hitting--in particular, the 18-20 vs. 19-20 crit chance. Here's how the #s compare for average full attack damage/round against a range of ACs, with zero and optimized power attack. This is a Fighter 18 /Barb 2, raging. 26 Str Feats of power attack, WF, gWF, WS, gWS, iC in either Greatsword or Falchion. Wields +5 weapon. Both kick butt. [CODE]opp AC GS opt PA GS+PA Fal opt PA Fal + PA 10 141.4 20 293.9 143.3 20 309.5 11 141.4 19 285.7 143.3 19 300.5 12 141.4 18 277.4 143.3 19 291.8 13 141.4 18 269.3 143.3 18 283.1 14 141.4 18 261.3 143.3 18 274.6 15 141.4 17 253.5 143.3 17 266.2 16 141.4 16 245.7 143.3 17 258.0 17 141.4 16 238.1 143.3 16 249.8 18 141.4 16 230.6 143.3 16 241.9 19 141.4 15 223.3 143.3 15 233.9 20 141.4 14 215.9 143.3 14 226.0 21 141.4 13 208.6 143.3 13 218.1 22 141.4 12 201.3 143.3 12 210.1 23 141.4 11 194.0 143.3 11 202.2 24 141.4 10 186.7 143.3 10 194.3 25 139.5 9 179.3 141.4 9 186.4 26 137.6 8 172.0 139.5 8 178.4 27 135.8 7 164.7 137.6 7 170.5 28 133.9 6 157.4 135.7 6 162.6 29 132.1 5 150.1 133.8 5 154.6 30 128.3 4 142.7 130.1 5 147.0 31 124.6 4 135.7 126.3 4 139.5 32 120.9 3 128.8 122.5 4 132.3 33 117.2 3 122.1 118.8 3 125.1 34 113.5 2 115.5 115.0 3 118.3 35 107.9 2 109.2 109.3 2 111.5 36 102.3 1 103.0 103.7 1 104.8 37 96.7 1 97.0 98.0 1 98.3 38 91.1 0 91.1 92.0 1 92.1 39 85.6 0 85.6 86.1 0 86.1 40 77.9 0 77.9 78.5 0 78.5 41 70.4 0 70.4 71.1 0 71.1 42 63.0 0 63.0 63.7 0 63.7 43 57.4 0 57.4 57.7 0 57.7 44 51.8 0 51.8 51.8 0 51.8 45 46.0 0 46.0 46.1 0 46.1 46 40.4 0 40.4 40.5 0 40.5 47 34.9 0 34.9 35.1 0 35.1 48 31.2 0 31.2 31.0 0 31.0 49 27.4 0 27.4 27.0 0 27.0 50 23.5 0 23.5 23.1 0 23.1 [/CODE] Use mine or similar sheets to compare to your heart's content (click sig). Ultimately, falls just short of the truth: nearly all core weapons, from an average dam/round perspective, are balanced, except perhaps Spiked Chain. [/QUOTE]
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