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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8642660" data-attributes="member: 6987520">We house-ruled it because it is nonsense to have it for only three races...And the highest score of the Standard Array is 15, so a +1 to that is very useful. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />You brought Skilled into this discussion. I was merely talking about Prodigy and Skill Expert --- both of which give a skill proficiency and expertise. But one offer a language and tool while the other offers a much more valuable ASI.Again, not talking about Skilled. You are. To me, the power creep is bad because it makes Prodigy obsolete compared to Skill Expert. That was my point.LOL it is VERY questionable! Look at all the threads about ASIs and if an 18 is really needed over a 16 or a 16 needed over a 14. I hardly ever use ASIs for +2 ASI and 95% of the time IME players pick feats. 16 you can start with and is good enough for most players to make their characters effective. The power/depth/versatility of feats far outweigh ASIs more often than not.Man, you are obsessed with Skilled...Two of the areas Prodigy affects are languages and tools, each considered inferior to skills in general and weighed at half a skill each makes them equivalent feats really.And most games also grant a bonus feat at 1st level, which is why WotC took that clue and is bringing it into the mainstream of the game.Except limiting it to those races for no real reason is a design flaw on WotC's part. What? They are saying it is impossible for a Dwarf, Gnome, or Dragonborn to be a prodigy? Makes no sense.Skilled, skilled, skilled... oi.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Who says Skill Expert is not a top tier feat? You get an ASI, a skill, AND expertise? That is awesome.Making prior content obsolete is not good power creep. When a feat becomes that good, people will take it often. Even combat-oriented min-maxers will love it! Fighter gets Athletics or Acrobatics, with Expertise, and +1 to STR or DEX??? Holy crap that is great!Other than the racial prerequisites, Prodigy is also a great feat, although not as strong as Skill Expert of course.If others don't recognize the power of Skill Expert, I can hardly help that. Regardless, it is superior 99% of the time to Prodigy.And you are not willing to face the facts about how these two feats measure up. We've butted heads before again and again, I've tried to be civil but I know you never listen. I am tired of arguing with you. You won't convince me--I won't convince you. Good-bye.</blockquote>

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