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<blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 3618387" data-attributes="member: 35798"><p>power creep is just a fear we all have so we see it everyplace. However I have found monsters in the srd to be way too strong at times. </p><p></p><p>Like earth elementals among other things. They have really good ac, damage reduction and are able to hit almost anything. They also get 2 attacks at level 5, when everyone else only gets 1. They are immune to critical and mind effecting spells, and have no real exploitable weakness at level 5. </p><p></p><p>2 rounds and my fighter monk barbarian was down. He got healed, stood up and got knocked down again with an aoo. This happened 3 times. </p><p></p><p>all the other characters couldn't do enough damage to get past its damage reduction. To be fare their was only 3 characters, not 4. the other two characters were a rogue and a beguiler.</p><p></p><p>We had above average hit dice (roll 3 times, choose highest), but the dm never used power attack, or cleave even though she could have.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My point is, that their is alot of nasty stuff in core that if you encounter it on your cr, can be a tpk pretty easily. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>you sent a cr8 creature at a party of level 5 characters and the monster was strong? imagine you had sent a cr 7 earth elemental. thats 152 hit points with a grapple of 29, two +19 attacks that do 2d10+9 damage each. </p><p></p><p>if this mm3 creature was too strong for a cr 8 as you say, would it be equivalent to a cr 9 earth elemental?</p><p></p><p>sorry I'm not attacking you, but i think people sometimes forget how strong things can be in core.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moon-Lancer, post: 3618387, member: 35798"] power creep is just a fear we all have so we see it everyplace. However I have found monsters in the srd to be way too strong at times. Like earth elementals among other things. They have really good ac, damage reduction and are able to hit almost anything. They also get 2 attacks at level 5, when everyone else only gets 1. They are immune to critical and mind effecting spells, and have no real exploitable weakness at level 5. 2 rounds and my fighter monk barbarian was down. He got healed, stood up and got knocked down again with an aoo. This happened 3 times. all the other characters couldn't do enough damage to get past its damage reduction. To be fare their was only 3 characters, not 4. the other two characters were a rogue and a beguiler. We had above average hit dice (roll 3 times, choose highest), but the dm never used power attack, or cleave even though she could have. My point is, that their is alot of nasty stuff in core that if you encounter it on your cr, can be a tpk pretty easily. you sent a cr8 creature at a party of level 5 characters and the monster was strong? imagine you had sent a cr 7 earth elemental. thats 152 hit points with a grapple of 29, two +19 attacks that do 2d10+9 damage each. if this mm3 creature was too strong for a cr 8 as you say, would it be equivalent to a cr 9 earth elemental? sorry I'm not attacking you, but i think people sometimes forget how strong things can be in core. [/QUOTE]
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