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<blockquote data-quote="HEL Pit Fiend" data-source="post: 302555" data-attributes="member: 5971">I'm baa-aaack I had to get my beauty rest, sheesh... (damn, I'm good lookin)...There is no problem here, that &quot;it breaks&quot; is obviously your opinion.&nbsp; The fact is, one or more of the authors felt it deserved a +6 rating.I see no difference between making Proof/Trans worth from 36k, to 360k in an Epic world, it fits nicely with other +6 abilities in the ELH like Acid or Sonic warding.&nbsp; Again your opinion vs what is written in the books.I think know the crux of your problem, here let me find....I am now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Seems, I have found your problem my friend, the whole x10 factor offends you across the board <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> .&nbsp; I understand now, you disagree with the ELH so strongly, that not only will you not allow it to change any items outside the ELH, but you will take the extra step and change the ELH itself.SHAME ON YOU! This is not about what you will house rule in your campaigns, this is about a guy who asked a question about Epics and Proof/Trans in his own campaigns.&nbsp; Does he play in your world?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; Do you know what opinions they have on the subject?&nbsp; No.Again (repetition is the best teacher), its not a matter of fact.&nbsp; I'm sure others will disagree.Keeping as a strict rules lawyer (which you've obviously have not been on this subject), Proof/Trans becomes an Epic ability when the ELH is introduced into a campaign, thats the short and correct answer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HEL Pit Fiend, post: 302555, member: 5971"] [COLOR=orange][SIZE=3]I'm baa-aaack[/SIZE][/COLOR] I had to get my beauty rest, sheesh... (damn, I'm good lookin)... There is no problem here, that "it breaks" is obviously [B][SIZE=5]your opinion[/SIZE][/B]. The fact is, one or more of the authors felt it deserved a +6 rating. I see no difference between making Proof/Trans worth from 36k, to 360k in an Epic world, it fits nicely with other +6 abilities in the ELH like Acid or Sonic warding. Again your opinion vs what is written in the books. I think know the crux of your problem, here let me find.... I am now :D Seems, I have found your problem my friend, the whole x10 factor offends you across the board :) . I understand now, you disagree with the ELH so strongly, that not only will you [B]not allow it to change any items outside the ELH[/B], but you will take the extra step and [B]change the ELH itself[/B]. [SIZE=5]SHAME ON YOU![/SIZE] This is not about what you will house rule in your campaigns, this is about a guy who asked a question about Epics and Proof/Trans in his own campaigns. Does he play in your world? No. Do you know what opinions they have on the subject? No. Again (repetition is the best teacher), its not a matter of fact. I'm sure others will disagree. [B]Keeping as a strict rules lawyer (which you've obviously have not been on this subject), Proof/Trans becomes an Epic ability when the ELH is introduced into a campaign[/B], thats the short and correct answer. [/QUOTE]

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