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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HEL Pit Fiend" data-source="post: 303558" data-attributes="member: 5971">What, and ruin all my fun?!?! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  Actually that's a very good idea, I'll try him.In an Epic world, it would be equal to all +6 enhancements ---> that's equal.Again, the core of this issue is that the x10 cost modifer offends you.  I've already dealt with this.And your point is?You seem to know what is or is not the case arravis' campaign, could it be insider information?  Or is that yet another of your infamous opinions?This is true, but is irrelevant nonetheless from a rules lawyer point of view.No, Not at all, I like when people give their opinions, it means they put their brains to use as opposed to just regurgitating information from manuals.  I just don't agree how you are answering the post.The correct answer for a rules lawyer would be:Arravis, as stated in the ELH (if your campaign uses that book), Proof from Transmutation would become Epic as outlined on pg. 123 (also see chapter on retooling), and subsequently be subject to the x10 cost factor. However, it is of my opinion that Proof/Trans should not be subject to that rule because.... Actually, my opinion is in the books.  It was of the opinion of the author in the MaoF that Proof/Trans was better than any +5 ability in the DMG, he gave it a +6, the MaoF and I agree.Actually it does in general terms, there are changes that need to be incorporated to fit Epic rules into any campaign.  Remember, they had to cut over 200 pages from the ELH, specifically addressing one magic item would have been an Epic waste of space.I see no "mess" here, that again is a matter of opinion.(Emphasis mine) "obviously snap decision"?  More insider information, perhaps?  I not absolutely sure, but I'm willing to bet that my campaign world won't come crumbling down around me if I make P/T Epic.  I will keep my eyes open though, thanks for the warning.... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

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