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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 708649" data-attributes="member: 259">Cosmology is all fine and good, and I defnitely recommend it -- but I don't think a weird rule should require a specific cosmology to justify.&nbsp; With the exception of the &quot;invisibility&quot; spell, but that's another rant for another day.I think I'll stick with (and recommend) my revised fire-subtype, fiery-natural-weapons criterion for being affected by Quench; although it's not been errata'ed that I could find, I'll house rule that Quench, like all other AoE spells that deal direct damage, allows SR.As a side note, I think that incorporeal creatures are unaffected by things that don't allow SR.&nbsp; Drop a ton of mud on a ghost using transmute rock to mud, and they won't take a point of damage, because the damage isn't directly caused by magic.&nbsp; A fire elemental ghost (yes, yes, I know it won't work) would be affected by quench, however, if the caster passed the 50% miss chance.&nbsp; That's because quench is a directly magical efect:&nbsp; subject to spell resistance, able to hit incorporeal creatures.Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 708649, member: 259"] Cosmology is all fine and good, and I defnitely recommend it -- but I don't think a weird rule should require a specific cosmology to justify. With the exception of the "invisibility" spell, but that's another rant for another day. I think I'll stick with (and recommend) my revised fire-subtype, fiery-natural-weapons criterion for being affected by Quench; although it's not been errata'ed that I could find, I'll house rule that Quench, like all other AoE spells that deal direct damage, allows SR. As a side note, I think that incorporeal creatures are unaffected by things that don't allow SR. Drop a ton of mud on a ghost using transmute rock to mud, and they won't take a point of damage, because the damage isn't directly caused by magic. A fire elemental ghost (yes, yes, I know it won't work) would be affected by quench, however, if the caster passed the 50% miss chance. That's because quench is a directly magical efect: subject to spell resistance, able to hit incorporeal creatures. Daniel [/QUOTE]

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