Is "Rake" considered a natural weapon?

[Lord Pendragon]

Subject says it all. Is the Rake attack that certain creatures have considered a natural weapon? For instance, if a creature had a bite, claw, and rake attack, would it qualify for the Multiattack feat?

 

[Egres]

Subject says it all. Is the Rake attack that certain creatures have considered a natural weapon? For instance, if a creature had a bite, claw, and rake attack, would it qualify for the Multiattack feat?

Well, IIRC the Rake special attack talks about two additional claw attacks, and then ,if you have a bite and two claws, you already qualify yourself for the Multiattack feat.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Well, IIRC the Rake special attack talks about two additional claw attacks, and then ,if you have a bite and two claws, you already qualify yourself for the Multiattack feat.

Each claw attack is considered a separate natural weapon? Interesting. I'd assumed it was one weapon used twice, though I suppose it makes sense that the left and right claw be considered separate, even though they are the same type of natural weapon...

 

[Izerath]

Claws ARE one weapon. At least I believe so.

Each claw attack is considered a separate natural weapon? Interesting. I'd assumed it was one weapon used twice, though I suppose it makes sense that the left and right claw be considered separate, even though they are the same type of natural weapon...

This just came up in another post on natural weapons and grappling.

I believe Lord Pendragon's original assumption (claws are one weapon used twice) is correct. Check out this thread and you'll see what I mean.

http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=100941

 

[Lonely Tylenol]

The Multiattack feat says "three or more natural attacks," not three or more natural weapons. Note that, for example, the Roc has three natural attacks, but only two natural weapons. It qualifies for multiattack (and is granted the feat).

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Found this in the SRD:

Natural Weapons: Natural weapons are weapons that are physically a part of a creature. A creature making a melee attack with a natural weapon is considered armed and does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Likewise, it threatens any space it
can reach. Creatures do not receive additional attacks from a high base attack bonus when using natural weapons. The number of attacks a creature can make with its natural weapons depends on the type of the attack—generally, a creature can make one bite attack, one attack per claw or tentacle, one gore attack, one sting attack, or one slam attack (although Large creatures with arms or arm-like limbs can make a slam attack with each arm). Refer to the individual monster descriptions.

Unless otherwise noted, a natural weapon threatens a critical hit on a natural attack roll of 20.

When a creature has more than one natural weapon, one of them (or sometimes a pair or set of them) is the primary weapon. All the creature’s remaining natural weapons are secondary.

So it would certainly seem that each claw is an individual natural weapon.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Found this in the SRD:So it would certainly seem that each claw is an individual natural weapon.

Heh. Yeah, I just posted the same quote in the grappling thread

It also becomes an important distinction for Magic Fang/GMF. Magic Fang affects one natural weapon; GMF can affect one at a higher bonus, or all at a lower bonus.

-Hyp.