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Is Rapid Shot more powerful than Two-Weapon Fighting?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 355576" data-attributes="member: 3570"><p>For a character who already has Point Blank Shot and Ambidexterity, TWF gives you the exact same thing as Rapid Shot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A 1st level fighter can get PBS/RS easier than Ambidexterity and TWF, because Ambidexterity has a high Dex prereq. Never mind the fact that <strong>I never stated I was switching out both Ambidexterity and TWF for both PBS and RS.</strong></p><p></p><p>But the "balance" issue being brought up by some is a complete nonissue. If a Ranger with Rapid Shot and Ambidexterity is "unbalanced" compared to a Ranger with TWF and Ambidexterity, then a 1st level Fighter who spends his two feats on Ambidexterity and TWF is unbalanced compared to the fighter who buys PBS and RS. Utter nonsense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So if I swapped out TWF for Quickdraw then it would be balanced? That's crazy. It still frees up a slot that can be used for Rapid Shot anyway.</p><p></p><p>I definitely appreciate everyone's input, but when I first posted I was under the impression I would be making a specific House Rule and was just deciding <strong>which</strong> feat I should trade with TWF, and I wanted it to be one that was equivalent or weaker. </p><p></p><p>The whole debate over whether or not RS is more powerful than TWF is moot; Far Shot, Precise Shot, and Quickdraw are all less useful than TWF so if I thought RS was too much I'd just trade TWF with one of the three lesser feats.</p><p></p><p>Saying Rapid Shot = Ambidexterity + TWF is silly and wrong anyway, because without PBS you ain't gettin' RS. So we're back to 2 feats = 2 feats. Anyway, it doesn't matter, what I want is wholly and completely covered within the Core Rules; no variants, no House Rules, nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kai Lord, post: 355576, member: 3570"] For a character who already has Point Blank Shot and Ambidexterity, TWF gives you the exact same thing as Rapid Shot. A 1st level fighter can get PBS/RS easier than Ambidexterity and TWF, because Ambidexterity has a high Dex prereq. Never mind the fact that [b]I never stated I was switching out both Ambidexterity and TWF for both PBS and RS.[/b] But the "balance" issue being brought up by some is a complete nonissue. If a Ranger with Rapid Shot and Ambidexterity is "unbalanced" compared to a Ranger with TWF and Ambidexterity, then a 1st level Fighter who spends his two feats on Ambidexterity and TWF is unbalanced compared to the fighter who buys PBS and RS. Utter nonsense. So if I swapped out TWF for Quickdraw then it would be balanced? That's crazy. It still frees up a slot that can be used for Rapid Shot anyway. I definitely appreciate everyone's input, but when I first posted I was under the impression I would be making a specific House Rule and was just deciding [b]which[/b] feat I should trade with TWF, and I wanted it to be one that was equivalent or weaker. The whole debate over whether or not RS is more powerful than TWF is moot; Far Shot, Precise Shot, and Quickdraw are all less useful than TWF so if I thought RS was too much I'd just trade TWF with one of the three lesser feats. Saying Rapid Shot = Ambidexterity + TWF is silly and wrong anyway, because without PBS you ain't gettin' RS. So we're back to 2 feats = 2 feats. Anyway, it doesn't matter, what I want is wholly and completely covered within the Core Rules; no variants, no House Rules, nothing. [/QUOTE]
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