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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 355945" data-attributes="member: 3570">Here's my entire response to you, to which in turn you stated "Don't ask whether something is balanced and then get upset when people tell you it isn't."quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by Caliber Ambidexterity and Two-Weapon Fighting are the equivalent of Rapid Shot together. Together they both do the same thing Rapid Shot does alone.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------If that were the case then Rapid Shot would allow a character to use his off-hand to perform a skill or attack. It doesn't.quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by Caliber Trading out one for Rapid Shot isn't grossly unbalancing, but it IS unbalanced. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------People seem to be under the impression that Ambidexterity is worthless by itself. By that logic then Ambidexerity+Rapid Shot is no more powerful than Rapid Shot by itself. That's not true. The Ranger gets three feats at first level. Regardless of how often anyone thinks they will be used, or how useful they will be when used, for a character who wanted to become a TW Fighter, they just saved him two feat slots right off the bat.Rapid Shot also requires two feats, because it has a prerequisite. So either way, we're talking two slots for the same effect with different weapons.The 1st level Ranger offers +1 BAB, +2 Fort save, two virtual feats that any character could conceivably get at that level, and Track. I'm not advocating changing one single element of that, and the Customization rules on page 94 of the PHB fully allow for changes in flavor.Wow, I was just foaming at the mouth, wasn't I?  If that truly offended your delicate sensitivities, then I apologize, but I think its obvious you just threw the "don't get upset" line in there as a smokescreen to cover the fact that you really weren't doing a very good job defending your point.  I can only assume your next response will dismiss Rapid Shot as broken.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> No, they aren't equal.  But what you're offering to counter my Ranger customization is like a DM looking at two new character sheets made by a couple of his players and saying, "Hmm, you chose Endurance and Run.  Okay.  Whoa!  You chose Weapon Focus and Power Attack.  Any one of those is better than both of the first character's feats put together so you're  going to have to just choose one of them."I realize that you weren't presuming to tell me not to swap the feat, but as said before, in every single melee engagement, Amb/TWF is the better combo.  And how are most fights conducted?Please list the page where it states that Rapid Shot lets you perform skills with your off-hand, or fire your bow with either hand.  Or that it only takes one feat to make an extra attack with a bow.</blockquote>

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