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Is Rapid Shot more powerful than Two-Weapon Fighting?
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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 356025" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>For all that I was going to post and say you were right and I was wrong (about the modifying classes bit being in the PH), now you're jumping all over Caliber, Kai Lord. And he's right.</p><p></p><p>Note that a Ranger's ambidexterity doesn't do any of the things that you are claiming for it either. A ranger "may fight with two weapons" as if he had ambidexterity and two weapon fighting. The ranger does not have ambidexterity and two weapon fighting for any other purpose. (Arguably) not for drawing both weapons as a part of a move equivalent action. (Definitely) Not for performing skill checks with an off hand. A ranger possesses ambidexterity for no purpose other than fighting with two weapons (and, according to the Sage and splatbooks, fulfilling prerequisites). </p><p></p><p>As to the question of whether exchanging even both ambidexterity and two weapon fighting for rapid shot would make your character more powerful--well, you want to do it don't you? From what I gather, your character is focussed around archery. The proposed exchange will help him focus his abilities even more on archery. In DnD 3e, focussed characters are more powerful than generalist characters. Therefore, your character will be more powerful when he is more focussed.</p><p></p><p>Really, this has very little to do with the fact that rapid shot is more powerful than TWF (considered by itself). What it has to do with is the question: should your character be able to trade useless (to him) class features for ones that are useful to him. Would you let a wizard trade scribe scroll for greater spell focus? How about a fighter/cleric trade his fighter heavy and medium armor proficiencies for weapon focus or power attack? So why should a ranger archer be able to take Rapid Shot instead of TWF?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 356025, member: 3146"] For all that I was going to post and say you were right and I was wrong (about the modifying classes bit being in the PH), now you're jumping all over Caliber, Kai Lord. And he's right. Note that a Ranger's ambidexterity doesn't do any of the things that you are claiming for it either. A ranger "may fight with two weapons" as if he had ambidexterity and two weapon fighting. The ranger does not have ambidexterity and two weapon fighting for any other purpose. (Arguably) not for drawing both weapons as a part of a move equivalent action. (Definitely) Not for performing skill checks with an off hand. A ranger possesses ambidexterity for no purpose other than fighting with two weapons (and, according to the Sage and splatbooks, fulfilling prerequisites). As to the question of whether exchanging even both ambidexterity and two weapon fighting for rapid shot would make your character more powerful--well, you want to do it don't you? From what I gather, your character is focussed around archery. The proposed exchange will help him focus his abilities even more on archery. In DnD 3e, focussed characters are more powerful than generalist characters. Therefore, your character will be more powerful when he is more focussed. Really, this has very little to do with the fact that rapid shot is more powerful than TWF (considered by itself). What it has to do with is the question: should your character be able to trade useless (to him) class features for ones that are useful to him. Would you let a wizard trade scribe scroll for greater spell focus? How about a fighter/cleric trade his fighter heavy and medium armor proficiencies for weapon focus or power attack? So why should a ranger archer be able to take Rapid Shot instead of TWF? [/QUOTE]
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