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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9070115" data-attributes="member: 23751">That's because unlike death saves, shape changers and attacking are things that are happening in the fiction.&nbsp; Shape changers are a group that includes vampires, werewolves, changelings, dopplegangers and more.&nbsp; Attacking is what you do regardless of how you describe your sword attack.&nbsp; Death saves on the other hand don't exist in the fiction. The PC is down and dying.&nbsp; He's going from 1% dead to 2% dead all the way towards 100% dead.&nbsp; The death saves that happen only determine whether the PC ends up at 100% dead or whether he stabilizes before he gets to 100% dead.&nbsp; They do not determine how dead the PC is.&nbsp; The PC isn't 0% dead and then with a missed save is suddenly 33% dead.&nbsp; Making the second death save doesn't prevent him from being 42% dead, but rather just helps towards him stabilizing prior to 100%.And yes I know that the death save section says that it is to determine whether you creep towards death or hang onto life, but lurching 33% isn't &quot;creeping.&quot;&nbsp; Missing the death save just means that the PC is creeping towards death as I say above.&nbsp; Making the death save just means that he has that much greater chance of not getting to death and hasn't yet died(is hanging on).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9070115, member: 23751"] That's because unlike death saves, shape changers and attacking are things that are happening in the fiction. Shape changers are a group that includes vampires, werewolves, changelings, dopplegangers and more. Attacking is what you do regardless of how you describe your sword attack. Death saves on the other hand don't exist in the fiction. The PC is down and dying. He's going from 1% dead to 2% dead all the way towards 100% dead. The death saves that happen only determine whether the PC ends up at 100% dead or whether he stabilizes before he gets to 100% dead. They do not determine how dead the PC is. The PC isn't 0% dead and then with a missed save is suddenly 33% dead. Making the second death save doesn't prevent him from being 42% dead, but rather just helps towards him stabilizing prior to 100%. And yes I know that the death save section says that it is to determine whether you creep towards death or hang onto life, but lurching 33% isn't "creeping." Missing the death save just means that the PC is creeping towards death as I say above. Making the death save just means that he has that much greater chance of not getting to death and hasn't yet died(is hanging on). [/QUOTE]

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