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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 1695193" data-attributes="member: 1077">"The rule", in Manyshot, only applies to the feat and effects of Manyshot.  It is not a general rule, and it does not state that all similiar effects are like that.  This is not a hidden rule like the one found under "Crossbow, Heavy" in the 3.0 PHB.Great, show me, LOVE to see it...Again, the rule only applies to that specific feat, Manyshot.  It does not apply to all other instances.And I will apply that rule whenever my character uses Manyshot.Not true.  According to the chart on page 141 of the PHB, to "Cast a spell" it is not an attack.  It is not an attack type (such as Attack (melee), it is not a Special Attack (such as Trip), it isn't any sort of Attack action that I can find.  It is in fact a Standard Action.  Just as Attack (melee), Attack (range), Attack (unarmed) are all Standard Actions.  If I cast Scorching Ray at a wall, that is not an attack.  It is a casting of a spell, which is a Standard Action, which happens to deal damage.  The "attack" comes in when I aim my Ray(s).The Scorching Ray spell does NOT have a Target.  It has a Range (25 ft +5 ft/2 levels) and it has an Effect.  It's Effect is "One or more Rays".  This means that, simply casting Scorching Ray (Standard Action) does not qualify as an attack.  Here is the order of operation:You cast Scorching Ray (Standard Action, not at attack)The effect of the spell occurs (One or more Rays) within the specified range (25 feet +5 feet/2 levels).Just so we are clear on what a ray is, let's look at the PHBSo where were we?  Oh yeah, we fire "One or more rays" at a maximum range of 25 feet +5 feet/2 levels.  I can see here we aim a ray just as if I was using a ranged weapon.  So I will aim one ray at opponent 1, aim the second ray at opponent 2, and aim the third ray at opponent 3.  All of which must (a) be within the spells Range and (b) be within 30 feet of each other, as the spell description tells us.Now what do we do?  Let's look back at the description for "Rays"...  I aimed each ray as if I was aiming a ranged weapon.  If I was firing a ranged weapon, do you think I could aim at someone's vital spots (as long as they are within 30' of me)?  If I was aiming a ranged weapon, do you think Sneak Attack damage would apply?  Well since I am aiming each ray as I would a ranged weapon, this would apply as well (unless you found a passage that states otherwise).  So I can therefore aim they Rays at the opponents vital spots and apply Sneak Attack damage just like I was aiming a ranged weapon.Ok, now what?  Oh yeah, we have to see if we hit yet.  Once again, let's look at our description for "Rays".  Says here we make a ranged touch attack.  We all know what that is by now.  So we resolve the Rays as a ranged touch attack.Seems pretty cut and dry when you break it down like that, doesn't it?Each ray counts as a seperate attack.  See the description of "Rays".For once, we agree on this topic!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Where are you getting this from?  As I just showed you above, each Ray is it's own attack.  You aim a Ray (singular) as you aim a Ranged Weapon.  Since there are three Rays, it is like you are aiming a Ranged Weapon 3 times.  If you aim a ranged weapon three times, at three different opponents (and you qualify for Sneak Attack), then the same holds true for each Ray because "you aim a ray like you aim a ranged weapon".Ok, twice we agree on this topic <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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