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<blockquote data-quote="Brisk-sg" data-source="post: 1696219" data-attributes="member: 5037"><p>The Rules of the Game Archive (<a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/rg" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/rg</a>) is all current to the 3.5 rules. The 3.5 Players Handbook came out in June of 2003. I compared the articles in that section (the 1st one is dated 1/20/2004, 6 months after 3.5 was released) with the 3.5 books and they match up for what chapters they reference. The sneak attacks part 4 article you reference is for the 3.5 rules.</p><p> </p><p>The article can be found here: <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040309a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040309a</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Remember, when 3.5 was released, per WOTC, other books were still compatible with it. WOTC never said that any book that is not 3.5 is not usuable in a game. That is something many DMs have done, yes, but not something WOTC has ever put forward. The Energy Orb spell was likely referenced as it was debated and ruled on specifically in the past.</p><p> </p><p>Now, you will probally refute this as proving nothing as it does not specifically say Scorching Ray anyware. I would personally check with your DM and see how he will rule on this issue before you create your character.</p><p> </p><p>I know how I will rule in the future about Scorching Ray and sneak attack, that you only get sneak attack damage on the 1st Ray.</p><p> </p><p>Also, per the 3.5 FAQ:</p><p> </p><p><em>Both of the example spells </em>(Scorching Ray and Meteor Swarm)<em> have a casting time of 1 standard action and an instantaneous duration. The caster uses the cast a spell action (a standard action), and makes all the ranged touch attacks the spell allows as part of that standard action (not as part of the attack or full attack action); making these attacks is not an action at all.</em></p><p> </p><p>The ranged touch attacks are part of the normal standard action, and the attacks themselves are not actions (ie full round action, or standard action). I would argue that any action that is instant (as this action basically is) does not make sense to have multiple sneak attacks on. How can you be precise on multiple targets with a free action that takes no time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brisk-sg, post: 1696219, member: 5037"] The Rules of the Game Archive ([url="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/rg"]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/rg[/url]) is all current to the 3.5 rules. The 3.5 Players Handbook came out in June of 2003. I compared the articles in that section (the 1st one is dated 1/20/2004, 6 months after 3.5 was released) with the 3.5 books and they match up for what chapters they reference. The sneak attacks part 4 article you reference is for the 3.5 rules. The article can be found here: [url="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040309a"]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040309a[/url] Remember, when 3.5 was released, per WOTC, other books were still compatible with it. WOTC never said that any book that is not 3.5 is not usuable in a game. That is something many DMs have done, yes, but not something WOTC has ever put forward. The Energy Orb spell was likely referenced as it was debated and ruled on specifically in the past. Now, you will probally refute this as proving nothing as it does not specifically say Scorching Ray anyware. I would personally check with your DM and see how he will rule on this issue before you create your character. I know how I will rule in the future about Scorching Ray and sneak attack, that you only get sneak attack damage on the 1st Ray. Also, per the 3.5 FAQ: [i]Both of the example spells [/i](Scorching Ray and Meteor Swarm)[i] have a casting time of 1 standard action and an instantaneous duration. The caster uses the cast a spell action (a standard action), and makes all the ranged touch attacks the spell allows as part of that standard action (not as part of the attack or full attack action); making these attacks is not an action at all.[/i] The ranged touch attacks are part of the normal standard action, and the attacks themselves are not actions (ie full round action, or standard action). I would argue that any action that is instant (as this action basically is) does not make sense to have multiple sneak attacks on. How can you be precise on multiple targets with a free action that takes no time. [/QUOTE]
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