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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8809675" data-attributes="member: 6795602">It's alot more nuanced than that.&nbsp; As one example.&nbsp; A factor like the DM hiding rolls is typically all or nothing.&nbsp; It doesn't really matter how often that occurs in the general sense, it matters whether it occurred for your game.Similar to above, the problem as I see it is that what ends up being ultra-niche in one campaign may be common in another.How spells actually get evaluated is important.&nbsp; Since the events of a campaign are not typically known beforehand, a player's evaluation of what is good is based on his experiences of how strong a spell was when used in various past situations coupled with observed frequencies of those situations and this coaleses into his Platonic Ideal of a D&amp;D campaign by which he evaluates a spells power.&nbsp; Where you most often see disagreements about strength of D&amp;D spells is usually related to where two players Ideal D&amp;D campaigns diverge.&nbsp; It can also have to do with what they are quantifying.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8809675, member: 6795602"] It's alot more nuanced than that. As one example. A factor like the DM hiding rolls is typically all or nothing. It doesn't really matter how often that occurs in the general sense, it matters whether it occurred for your game. Similar to above, the problem as I see it is that what ends up being ultra-niche in one campaign may be common in another. How spells actually get evaluated is important. Since the events of a campaign are not typically known beforehand, a player's evaluation of what is good is based on his experiences of how strong a spell was when used in various past situations coupled with observed frequencies of those situations and this coaleses into his Platonic Ideal of a D&D campaign by which he evaluates a spells power. Where you most often see disagreements about strength of D&D spells is usually related to where two players Ideal D&D campaigns diverge. It can also have to do with what they are quantifying. [/QUOTE]

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