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<blockquote data-quote="doctorhook" data-source="post: 4427819" data-attributes="member: 58401"><p>So, it seems the jury is still out on what the problem is, exactly, and whether or not it even exists.</p><p></p><p>Hypothetically, what if the Wizard's level 2 Utility choices looked like this:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Expeditious Retreat</strong>: (Daily, move action) Shift up to twice your speed.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><strong>Feather Fall</strong></span>: (Encounter, free action, range 10) Use when a creature (EDIT: Including yourself) in range falls. That creature takes no damage and doesn't fall prone.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: Red"><strong>Jump</strong></span>: (Encounter, move action, range 10) One creature (EDIT: Including yourself) makes an Athletics check to jump as a free action, with a +10 power bonus. Target can move as many squares as the check allows and is considered to have a running start.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Phantasmal Terrain</strong>: (Daily, standard action, area burst 2 within 10) Against your enemies, until the end of the encounter, difficult terrain in the zone costs an extra additional point of movement, and traps and hazards within the zone gain a bonus to attack rolls equal to your Intelligence modifier.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: White"><strong>Shield</strong></span>: (Daily, immediate interrupt) Use when you are hit by an attack. You gain a +4 power bonus to AC and Reflex until the end of your next turn.</li> </ul><p>Which powers would you choose if these were the choices?</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Some other options to consider:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if <span style="color: Lime"><strong>Feather Fall</strong></span> was an At-Will?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if <span style="color: Red"><strong>Shield</strong></span> gave +3 AC and Reflex until the end of your next turn, as an encounter power?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if <strong>Shield</strong> gave +4 AC and Reflex until the end of the encounter, as a daily?</li> </ul><p>These are subtle, hypothetical changes, that I'm not currently suggesting anyone make. (Consider this to have been an experiment of sorts.) Expeditious Retreat is the same, Feather Fall is now an encounter power, Jump is the same as its newest errata, Phantasmal Terrain is the same as it appears in Dragon 364, and Shield is now a daily.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorhook, post: 4427819, member: 58401"] So, it seems the jury is still out on what the problem is, exactly, and whether or not it even exists. Hypothetically, what if the Wizard's level 2 Utility choices looked like this: [LIST] [*][B]Expeditious Retreat[/B]: (Daily, move action) Shift up to twice your speed. [*][COLOR=Red][B]Feather Fall[/B][/COLOR]: (Encounter, free action, range 10) Use when a creature (EDIT: Including yourself) in range falls. That creature takes no damage and doesn't fall prone. [*][COLOR=Red][B]Jump[/B][/COLOR]: (Encounter, move action, range 10) One creature (EDIT: Including yourself) makes an Athletics check to jump as a free action, with a +10 power bonus. Target can move as many squares as the check allows and is considered to have a running start. [*][B]Phantasmal Terrain[/B]: (Daily, standard action, area burst 2 within 10) Against your enemies, until the end of the encounter, difficult terrain in the zone costs an extra additional point of movement, and traps and hazards within the zone gain a bonus to attack rolls equal to your Intelligence modifier. [*][COLOR=White][B]Shield[/B][/COLOR]: (Daily, immediate interrupt) Use when you are hit by an attack. You gain a +4 power bonus to AC and Reflex until the end of your next turn. [/LIST] Which powers would you choose if these were the choices? EDIT: Some other options to consider: [LIST] [*]What if [COLOR=Lime][B]Feather Fall[/B][/COLOR] was an At-Will? [*]What if [COLOR=Red][B]Shield[/B][/COLOR] gave +3 AC and Reflex until the end of your next turn, as an encounter power? [*]What if [B]Shield[/B] gave +4 AC and Reflex until the end of the encounter, as a daily? [/LIST] These are subtle, hypothetical changes, that I'm not currently suggesting anyone make. (Consider this to have been an experiment of sorts.) Expeditious Retreat is the same, Feather Fall is now an encounter power, Jump is the same as its newest errata, Phantasmal Terrain is the same as it appears in Dragon 364, and Shield is now a daily. [/QUOTE]
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