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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ginnel" data-source="post: 4434962" data-attributes="member: 66058">Originally Posted by ilmoin's fundamental point <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?p=4434061#post4434061" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/enw/buttons/viewpost.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a> you can decide to use the power after the DM tells you the attack die total.</blockquote>got it in one, this sentance assumes the DM is always telling you the attack die total, the only sticking point we get now is does the DM tell you the attack roll after you decide to use the power or not. 1. DM roles monsters attack2. DM says I rolled a 153. Player says hmm I have AC 13 I'll use my belt/shield/whatever to give me AC in response4. DM says attack total is 19 haha chump now mark that power off or case 2 1 DM rolls monster's attack2. DM says I got a 19 total3. Player says hmm I have 13 AC and shield only gives +4, player decides not to use power this time. 4. DM goes take 40 Gabillion damage fool! Personally I think case 2 makes 100% more sense and its how all our current games are run, our 4th edition game the wizard hasn't used his shield even though he has been hit in several combats, the rolls either seem to miss completely or hit overwhelmingly (over +4).[/QUOTE]