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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4697680" data-attributes="member: 2011">I won't get into a long discussion concerning Shield vs. Shield of Faith.It will just be 100 more posts.Shield typically would have slightly more utility if one considers the 2E adjudication above of Shield and one focuses on number of attacks stopped per day. Shield of Faith has more utility in the sense that it protects multiple PCs.Assuming the Wizard gets hit 3 or more times per encounter and there are 5 encounters per day, Shield is solidly more potent. It will stop 5 encounters * (1-(1-0.3)^3) = 3.285 or roughly 3 hits per day. Shield of Faith, even assuming that it gets cast in round one (which it usually only is if fighting some BBEG like a Dragon) will stop 10% * 5 PCs * 8 attacks against each PC per encounter * 56% AC attacks in the MM = 2.24 hits per day. I'm assuming about 10 rounds per encounter here with some PCs getting attacked 10 or so times and other PCs in the back not getting attacked as often.At 2 hits per encounter against the Wizard, they are closer. 2.55 vs. 2.24.Now, one could drop the 56% here assuming that the Cleric only uses it in big vs. AC fights. In that case, Shield of Faith would stop 4 hits per day (assuming every single attack is vs. AC).In that case, the Wizard would need to be attacked 4.5 times per encounter for Shield to stop 4 hits per day like Shield of Faith.But, these comparisions are off a bit. The Shield number of hits per day is a little low due to the fact that Shield can stop more than one hit in a single round multiple times per day. And the (latter) Shield of Faith number of hits per day is high because it will not always cast in round one and not all attacks against the PCs will be vs. AC every time. The real number is probably somewhere around 3 hits per day, somewhere between the two extremes.Shield probably has a slight edge here except on BBEG days against creatures that do nothing but attack AC.Shield of Faith is good against minion fights, but that's a substandard use of it.They are probably comparable. Shield has a slight edge if the PC Wizard gets hit 3 or more times per encounter.But, I won't go another 100 posts with you on this APC.</blockquote>

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