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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1376947" data-attributes="member: 2629">How powerful is a sorcerer compared to a wizard? That depends upon the campaign setting and the skill of the players. I've seen a sorcerer be the most powerful PC in the game. I've seen them be very useless.Most formulas and calculations fail to take into consideration the reality of the game: wizards often memorize useless spells because they have no idea what they'll be facing, wizards become progressively weaker throughout encounters as their spells dry up and their options narrow while sorcerers stay strong until they run out of slots at a particular level, etc ...In the hands of a capable player, either class can shine. My 12th level sorcerer is the most powerful PC in his 6 PC party  - and he is far from optimized. Heck, there was one time when he ended up soloing a section of a dungeon intended for the entire party. Scout things out with a stealthy familiar, throw a couple summoned monsters together as temporary meat shields, walk in with a few defensive spells already up and throw area effect spells until things stop moving. If a wizard tried that, he'd be screwed if there were any unexpected surprises - if he even had enough spells available to do it in the first place.</blockquote>