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Is Sorcerer the weakest 3.5 base class now?
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<blockquote data-quote="apsuman" data-source="post: 1378112" data-attributes="member: 1769"><p>1. Given. The later spell progression really gives an advantage to the wizard at odd levels, especially levels 3 and 5. I think the sorcerer class would benefite mightily if on odd levels they received one spell slot of the next highest level but knew no spells of that level. In other words, at level 5 a sorcerer would have 1 third level spell slot but know no third level spells. That way they could metamagic spells into that slot, and have potentially more slots of that level from a high ability score.</p><p></p><p>2. True the sorcerer goes get fewer feats than the wizard. But in my post above about how flexible the sorcerer is throughout the day, perhaps it is the wizard that is inferior and he needs the feats to stay competitive. Maybe not but think about it that way for a little bit. I do think the feats that the wizard gets does give the players something to look forward to as they progress. Sorcerers are pretty much front loaded, but more on that in number 3...</p><p></p><p>3. What do you mean no prestige classes? Given that the sorcerer is front loaded, there is absolutely NO reason not to go into a prestige class, except that your familiar will no longer advance -- but there is a prestige class for familiar centric types too. The wizard has to give up bonus feats, but the sorcerer does not. The candlecaster from Tome and Blood gives the sorcerer practically all the metamagic feats for his candles. Any prestige class that offers +1 level of existing class at every (or nearly) level would make sooo much since for the sorcerer to take.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="apsuman, post: 1378112, member: 1769"] 1. Given. The later spell progression really gives an advantage to the wizard at odd levels, especially levels 3 and 5. I think the sorcerer class would benefite mightily if on odd levels they received one spell slot of the next highest level but knew no spells of that level. In other words, at level 5 a sorcerer would have 1 third level spell slot but know no third level spells. That way they could metamagic spells into that slot, and have potentially more slots of that level from a high ability score. 2. True the sorcerer goes get fewer feats than the wizard. But in my post above about how flexible the sorcerer is throughout the day, perhaps it is the wizard that is inferior and he needs the feats to stay competitive. Maybe not but think about it that way for a little bit. I do think the feats that the wizard gets does give the players something to look forward to as they progress. Sorcerers are pretty much front loaded, but more on that in number 3... 3. What do you mean no prestige classes? Given that the sorcerer is front loaded, there is absolutely NO reason not to go into a prestige class, except that your familiar will no longer advance -- but there is a prestige class for familiar centric types too. The wizard has to give up bonus feats, but the sorcerer does not. The candlecaster from Tome and Blood gives the sorcerer practically all the metamagic feats for his candles. Any prestige class that offers +1 level of existing class at every (or nearly) level would make sooo much since for the sorcerer to take. [/QUOTE]
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