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Is Sorcerer the weakest 3.5 base class now?
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<blockquote data-quote="DarkMaster" data-source="post: 1386001" data-attributes="member: 16362"><p>This kind of contradict "LOTS" of scroll for those "RIGHT NOW" situation. I guess your wizard has implemented a hell of a DEWEY system to retrieve the right scroll amongt the 100 he created in less than 1 or 2 second (Longer than that I doubt you can cast it in the same round. My player don't rely on scroll for RIGHT NOW casting. they learned that unless the scroll is really quickly accessible they won't be able to cast it in the next few rounds. I remember having the sorcerer going in the bag of holding to find a particular scroll amongt the 12 they had collected. It took him 5 round to find it, by the time he was ready to cast the fight was over with the Dwarf fighter unconscious. </p><p></p><p>Same thing with selection of wand, I usually allow my player to carry a very limited amount of wand, rod or staff.</p><p></p><p>also when you say: Enemy Fighter? Hold Monster/Person, or Dominate. Bad guy Rogue? Illusions are fun. Evil Wizard? Enervation. The enemy Cleric? Ray of Enfeeblement, or just pile on the damage spells. The sorcerer can be built with the equivalent so no point here. </p><p></p><p>also when you say</p><p></p><p>he is a very second rate spellcaster with some second rate combat abilities. Sure, he has lots of slots, but combats don't last that long anyway, so he typically retires for the evening with lots of unused spells.</p><p></p><p>I guess your DM don't put more than a fight a day. Usually when their in a dungeon my player go through a lot before they can rest ( I love to pressure them )</p><p></p><p>Like I said both have their advantages and depend on the DM style of play. In my world wizard are poorer adventurer than sorcerer. Sorcerer are very rare though and wizard are witchunting them (basically because they are jaleaous) but that is another story</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkMaster, post: 1386001, member: 16362"] This kind of contradict "LOTS" of scroll for those "RIGHT NOW" situation. I guess your wizard has implemented a hell of a DEWEY system to retrieve the right scroll amongt the 100 he created in less than 1 or 2 second (Longer than that I doubt you can cast it in the same round. My player don't rely on scroll for RIGHT NOW casting. they learned that unless the scroll is really quickly accessible they won't be able to cast it in the next few rounds. I remember having the sorcerer going in the bag of holding to find a particular scroll amongt the 12 they had collected. It took him 5 round to find it, by the time he was ready to cast the fight was over with the Dwarf fighter unconscious. Same thing with selection of wand, I usually allow my player to carry a very limited amount of wand, rod or staff. also when you say: Enemy Fighter? Hold Monster/Person, or Dominate. Bad guy Rogue? Illusions are fun. Evil Wizard? Enervation. The enemy Cleric? Ray of Enfeeblement, or just pile on the damage spells. The sorcerer can be built with the equivalent so no point here. also when you say he is a very second rate spellcaster with some second rate combat abilities. Sure, he has lots of slots, but combats don't last that long anyway, so he typically retires for the evening with lots of unused spells. I guess your DM don't put more than a fight a day. Usually when their in a dungeon my player go through a lot before they can rest ( I love to pressure them ) Like I said both have their advantages and depend on the DM style of play. In my world wizard are poorer adventurer than sorcerer. Sorcerer are very rare though and wizard are witchunting them (basically because they are jaleaous) but that is another story [/QUOTE]
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