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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 1323511" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>As others have said, it's up to the DM.</p><p></p><p>Several suggestions as to how to make languages viable skills in your campaign without eliminating comprehend languages and tongues:</p><p></p><p>-The spells only last a limited duration (10 minutes per level). A particularly long book or conversation will outlast the spell.</p><p></p><p>-Neither spell conveys idiomatic expression or hidden meaning, only the literal meaning. A student of the language, however, WILL have understanding of this. (Students of multiple languages will be able to tell you the dangers of idiomatic expression. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) a clever DM might even make an in-game puzzle that depends on true understanding of the language, rather than translations.</p><p></p><p>-A person or creature may be well disposed towards someone who understands their language without resorting to a spell, as opposed to casting something as soon as they meet them. In addition, given lack of true understanding of the language, it should be fairly evident (listen check perhaps?) to a native speaker when someone is using auto-translation and when someone is not.</p><p></p><p>Others may have some extra suggestions, but there are ways to improve the value of speak languages without hampering mages who have taken the requisite spells.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 1323511, member: 158"] As others have said, it's up to the DM. Several suggestions as to how to make languages viable skills in your campaign without eliminating comprehend languages and tongues: -The spells only last a limited duration (10 minutes per level). A particularly long book or conversation will outlast the spell. -Neither spell conveys idiomatic expression or hidden meaning, only the literal meaning. A student of the language, however, WILL have understanding of this. (Students of multiple languages will be able to tell you the dangers of idiomatic expression. :)) a clever DM might even make an in-game puzzle that depends on true understanding of the language, rather than translations. -A person or creature may be well disposed towards someone who understands their language without resorting to a spell, as opposed to casting something as soon as they meet them. In addition, given lack of true understanding of the language, it should be fairly evident (listen check perhaps?) to a native speaker when someone is using auto-translation and when someone is not. Others may have some extra suggestions, but there are ways to improve the value of speak languages without hampering mages who have taken the requisite spells. [/QUOTE]
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