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<blockquote data-quote="Shadeus" data-source="post: 3114257" data-attributes="member: 1795">I would argue the 3.0 FAQ doesn't apply in this case because both the haste spell and the speed enhancement were changed in 3.5.&nbsp; I would approach a speed weapon mathmatically.&nbsp; We can do three basis for comparison:&nbsp;- +5 greatsword&nbsp;- +2 greatsword of speed&nbsp;- +2 flaming shocking greatsword of frostLet's keep with the 15th-level fighter and give him a 26 Str, greater/weapon focus, and greater weapon spec (I'll ignore melee weapon mastery or the slashing flurry feats from PHII for now).So let's check out attacks:+5 sword = +15 (BAB) + 2 (WF) + 5 (weapon) + 8 (Str) = +30+2 speed sword = +27+2 energy sword = +27Now for damage:+5 sword = 2d6 + 4 (W spec) + 5 (weapon) + 12 (Str) = ave. 28+2 speed sword = ave. 25 (only difference is weapon enhancement)+2 energy sword = 25 + 3d6 = ave. 35Full attack against AC 20:+5 sword = +30/+25/+20 at ave. 79.8 dmg each round +2 speed sword = +27/+27/+23/+18 at ave. 95 dmg each round+2 energy sword = +27/+23/+18 at ave. 99.75 dmg each roundFull attack against AC 25:+5 sword = ave. 75.6 dmg each round +2 speed sword = ave. 88.75 dmg each round+2 energy sword = ave. 91 dmg each roundFull attack against AC 30:+5 sword = ave. 64.4 dmg each round +2 speed sword = ave. 71.25 dmg each round+2 energy sword = ave. 70 dmg each roundSo it's a slippery slope.&nbsp; If you are going to hit it a lot, then the energy sword is your best bet because it does the most damage.&nbsp; If it's got a better AC, then that extra attack at your best attack bonus really comes in handy.&nbsp; That's not to say that boots of speed can't do the exact same thing and more (speed weapon doesn't give you a boost to your movement, AC, attacks, or Ref saves).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shadeus, post: 3114257, member: 1795"] I would argue the 3.0 FAQ doesn't apply in this case because both the haste spell and the speed enhancement were changed in 3.5. I would approach a speed weapon mathmatically. We can do three basis for comparison: - +5 greatsword - +2 greatsword of speed - +2 flaming shocking greatsword of frost Let's keep with the 15th-level fighter and give him a 26 Str, greater/weapon focus, and greater weapon spec (I'll ignore melee weapon mastery or the slashing flurry feats from PHII for now). So let's check out attacks: +5 sword = +15 (BAB) + 2 (WF) + 5 (weapon) + 8 (Str) = +30 +2 speed sword = +27 +2 energy sword = +27 Now for damage: +5 sword = 2d6 + 4 (W spec) + 5 (weapon) + 12 (Str) = ave. 28 +2 speed sword = ave. 25 (only difference is weapon enhancement) +2 energy sword = 25 + 3d6 = ave. 35 Full attack against AC 20: +5 sword = +30/+25/+20 at ave. 79.8 dmg each round +2 speed sword = +27/+27/+23/+18 at ave. 95 dmg each round +2 energy sword = +27/+23/+18 at ave. 99.75 dmg each round Full attack against AC 25: +5 sword = ave. 75.6 dmg each round +2 speed sword = ave. 88.75 dmg each round +2 energy sword = ave. 91 dmg each round Full attack against AC 30: +5 sword = ave. 64.4 dmg each round +2 speed sword = ave. 71.25 dmg each round +2 energy sword = ave. 70 dmg each round So it's a slippery slope. If you are going to hit it a lot, then the energy sword is your best bet because it does the most damage. If it's got a better AC, then that extra attack at your best attack bonus really comes in handy. That's not to say that boots of speed can't do the exact same thing and more (speed weapon doesn't give you a boost to your movement, AC, attacks, or Ref saves). [/QUOTE]

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