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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 615416" data-attributes="member: 6239">Ordinary people aren't extrordinary.&nbsp; If you are powerful sorceror, you have gain enough levels that can not be called ordinary.&nbsp; If you are an otherwise ordinary but very wise priest, you are defined on your strength only, not your whole character.&nbsp; If your stats start at the base for your race, why don't we just roll 2d4 and add them to the base?Only if all your opponents have medium-high stats accross the board.&nbsp; Making &quot;average&quot; a weakness just makes most of the people in your world pathetic.There is no &quot;edges and flaws&quot; rule system in D&amp;D.&nbsp; Characters with addictions, phobias, ect, are more interesting, as you say.&nbsp; But there is no rules incentive for this.&nbsp; There are incentives for low stats: other stats can be higher.&nbsp; Personally, the fact that point buy starts at 8 is a weakness of the rules because there is no good reason to play a character who is REALLY dumb.&nbsp; Even a half-orc starting at 8 is only down to 6.&nbsp; Slow, to be sure, but they could still get through most high schools.&nbsp; A mentally retarded character could be very interesting.Yes, and those strengths come from level, items, and synergy with other characters.&nbsp; Most characters can be useful, if played well.&nbsp; But without some weakness of character or stat, the character isn't very well rounded.&nbsp; That streaches susspension of disbelief and leads to flat characters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 615416, member: 6239"] Ordinary people aren't extrordinary. If you are powerful sorceror, you have gain enough levels that can not be called ordinary. If you are an otherwise ordinary but very wise priest, you are defined on your strength only, not your whole character. If your stats start at the base for your race, why don't we just roll 2d4 and add them to the base? Only if all your opponents have medium-high stats accross the board. Making "average" a weakness just makes most of the people in your world pathetic. There is no "edges and flaws" rule system in D&D. Characters with addictions, phobias, ect, are more interesting, as you say. But there is no rules incentive for this. There are incentives for low stats: other stats can be higher. Personally, the fact that point buy starts at 8 is a weakness of the rules because there is no good reason to play a character who is REALLY dumb. Even a half-orc starting at 8 is only down to 6. Slow, to be sure, but they could still get through most high schools. A mentally retarded character could be very interesting. Yes, and those strengths come from level, items, and synergy with other characters. Most characters can be useful, if played well. But without some weakness of character or stat, the character isn't very well rounded. That streaches susspension of disbelief and leads to flat characters. [/QUOTE]

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