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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 617863" data-attributes="member: 6875">Ordinary people, thrust into extraordinary situations,s oemtimes BECOME extraordinary people.  No offense but I don't have to play Conan every time I play a strength-oriented fighter.  Joe Ex-Soldier will do for me.And no; I disagree an otherwise-ordinary but very-wise priest is defined only by his strength.The character is defined by his or her actions when faced with situations OUTSIDE their strength.It's a "weakness" in the sense that, a HERO is expected to be ABOVE average.  BETTER than ordinary.  When said hero isn't ... it's a perceived flaw.Only in point-buy, which is nonstandard.  In standard, you -could- be the one-in-I-dunno-how-many-millions who actually GETS all 18's across the board (I've done 3 18's a 16 and two 14's once ... years ago).As for playing a characetr who is REALLY dumb ... sure there is: a CHALLENGE, and some FUN.  For point-buy systems, I prefer ones like GURPS ... everything starts average; get better, pay some points.  Get worse, get paid some points.Strengths can be in other terms, largely circumstance, GM, and campaign-backstory dependant.  It's BETTER if there's a rule-based incentive or compensation system for nonattribute characetr flaws.But it's not REQUIRED.All that is REQUIRED is, mature gamers who're in the game for more than just some dice-rolling, but want some ROLE-playing too.And mind, anyone that knows me personally know's I am -normally- a "lemme roll some damned dice already" point-monkey of a powergamer.But there is more to gaming than dice and numbers.</blockquote>

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