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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8848734" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Do you need 85 pages for the setting to work? Again, "I am approaching this with the expectations of 2e" isn't something a 20-something who sees it on the shelf is thinking. They are thinking "this is the newest DnD product, what is it like?" This seems perfectly adequate for me. Tells me a lot about Large Luigi, plenty to run him as an NPC So... a lot of words to give basically the same information. Only, instead of "he's a really smart person and a good resource for information" he is an nigh-omniscient knower of all things, a god of a beholder with a vision for his species... So, does this make him a better character? I doubt it. The 5e version gives plenty for him to be a good NPC. I mean, I guess he fits better as a Beholder, being certain that he knows everything and is basically a god, but frankly it isn't needed. 2e gives more information =/= 5e doesn't give enough information to be a setting book. I own games, set in unique settings, that do not have as many NPCs and locations as this 5e book does for the Rock. Those are settings, real settings, that people run in. So how is the Rock not sufficient? Sure, it is less than 2e, but if you had never touched a single 2e book in your entire life, that wouldn't be a comparison you could even make. So... does it matter in determining if this is a good setting book for people who are being introduced to a new setting? I think not.</blockquote>

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